Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 02:38:15 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [Ux2bs_Archive] No. 99 ************************************************** Friday 07 March 2003 Number 99 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: utime in Posix/2 : Maynard" 2 man pages? : brpms at earthlink.net 3 Re: utime in Posix/2 : Maynard" 4 fork : Ken Ames 5 Re: utime in Posix/2 : John Poltorak 6 Re: Incorporating gcc v3.2.1 into UX2BS. : Henry Sobotka 7 Re: fork : Henry Sobotka 8 Re: fork : Ken Ames 9 Re: utime in Posix/2 : Stefan.Neis at t-online.de 10 Re: Posix/2 update : Stefan.Neis at t-online.de 11 Re: Posix/2 update : John Poltorak 12 latest ux2 Perl builds : Maynard" 13 Re: fork : Ken Ames 14 Re: fork : Ken Ames 15 Problems building GREP : John Poltorak 16 Incorporating gcc v3.2.1 into UX2BS. : John Poltorak 17 Re: latest ux2 Perl builds : Henry Sobotka 18 Re: man pages? : John Poltorak **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 08:36:49 -0600 (CST) From: "Maynard" Subject: Re: utime in Posix/2 On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:12:37 +0100, Stefan.Neis at t-online.de wrote: >It's apparently even included in stock EMX. \emx\include\sys\utime.h It's also worth remembering that there is quanity documentation in the full emx distrib. -- blink _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:10:53 -0700 From: brpms at earthlink.net Subject: man pages? I just did a new ux2_bootstrap. Seemed to work well. Didn't break perl Failed 5/726 test scripts, 99.31% okay. 7/68702 subtests failed, 99.99% okay. Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ../lib/ExtUtils/t/basic.t 1 256 17 1 5.88% 14 lib/os2_base.t 1 256 19 1 5.26% 8 lib/os2_process.t 2 512 227 2 0.88% 174 209 lib/os2_process_kid.t 227 2 0.88% 174 209 op/stat.t 73 1 1.37% 44 61 tests and 563 subtests skipped. I note that we have man pages, but I can't find a man.exe. What do we have to build to make them useful? Thanks, Paul Schwartz -- ----------------------------------------------------------- brpms at earthlink.net ----------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 13:09:14 -0600 (CST) From: "Maynard" Subject: Re: utime in Posix/2 Looking at the distribution file Y2K_INFO, ... bzip2 itself copies dates from source to destination files when compressing or decompressing, using the 'stat' and 'utime' UNIX system calls. It doesn't examine, manipulate or store the dates in any way. So as far as I can see, there shouldn't be any problem with bzip2 providing 'stat' and 'utime' work correctly on your system. On non-unix platforms (those for which BZ_UNIX in bzip2.c is not set to 1), bzip2 doesn't even do the date copying. so, both utime and stat are in emx; in ux2 need to force BZ_UNIX in the bzip2 sources and disable posix2 ?? -- Maynard _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 13:52:29 -0800 From: Ken Ames Subject: fork hi, is fork still a problem when switching to omf output? aout just isn't working so well in my latest work. Thanks in advance. Ken _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:12:52 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: utime in Posix/2 On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 08:36:49AM -0600, Maynard wrote: > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:12:37 +0100, Stefan.Neis at t-online.de wrote: > > >It's apparently even included in stock EMX. > > \emx\include\sys\utime.h > > It's also worth remembering that there is quanity documentation in the > full emx distrib. I was under the impression that the problem with BZIP2 not datestamping files correctly was because it required utime(), but it appears that we already do have it included with one of te libs supplied with EMX, so how come it doesn't work? > -- blink -- John _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:25:45 -0500 From: Henry Sobotka Subject: Re: Incorporating gcc v3.2.1 into UX2BS. John Poltorak wrote: > > If anyone installs this new version, could you see how well it builds > Perl? Unless it spits out *.obj files by default when -Zomf is specified, Perl won't build out of the box, and adding the required -o $ at 's is a bit tricky because of the Perl build system. h~ _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:05:47 -0500 From: Henry Sobotka Subject: Re: fork Ken Ames wrote: > > is fork still a problem when switching to omf output? Yup. Same old story. h~ _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:33:40 -0800 From: Ken Ames Subject: Re: fork I find it simply amazing with all the really good os2 system programmers out there that one of them has not implemented a decent fork. Henry Sabotka, Holger Veit, Knut St.Osmundsen, Sam Detweiler..... just to name a few. Ken Henry Sobotka wrote: >Ken Ames wrote: > > >> is fork still a problem when switching to omf output? >> >> > >Yup. Same old story. > >h~ >_______________________________________________ >UX2BS mailing list >UX2BS at os2ports.com >http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs > > > _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:51:28 +0100 From: Stefan.Neis at t-online.de Subject: Re: utime in Posix/2 Hi, > I was under the impression that the problem with BZIP2 not datestamping > files correctly was because it required utime(), but it appears that we > already do have it included with one of te libs supplied with EMX, so how > come it doesn't work? Because there's a second function involved, that's _not_ included in EMX, only in Posix/2, IIRC. I don't quite remember the mail with the technical details somebody posted on unixos2 mailing list. Is there a searchable archive? Regards, Stefan _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:56:54 +0100 From: Stefan.Neis at t-online.de Subject: Re: Posix/2 update Hi, > Any chance of getting a full refresh of Posix/2 soon? > > If not, how about the necessary CVS command line for retrieving the stuff > from sourcefourge... There are detailed instructions on the sourceforge web site, see sourceforge.net/projects/posix2 and click on the CVS link (or immediately go to http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3366). I seem to be posting that reference at least for the third time during the past four weeks and start wondering why I'm doing that if nobody is reading it anyway. :-( Regards, Stefan _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:00:40 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: Posix/2 update On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 06:56:54PM +0100, Stefan.Neis at t-online.de wrote: > Hi, > > > Any chance of getting a full refresh of Posix/2 soon? > > > > If not, how about the necessary CVS command line for retrieving the stuff > > from sourcefourge... > > There are detailed instructions on the sourceforge web site, see > sourceforge.net/projects/posix2 and click on the CVS link > (or immediately go to http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3366). > > I seem to be posting that reference at least for the third time during > the past four weeks and start wondering why I'm doing that if nobody is > reading it anyway. :-( I can't say I remember seeing it. I've just looked at mail from you over the last month and didn't spot any references to how to download from sourceforge... Is it possible to use CVS via a proxy server? Or do you need to have direct Internet access ? > Regards, > Stefan -- John _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:02:55 -0600 (CST) From: "Maynard" Subject: latest ux2 Perl builds On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:10:53 -0700, brpms at earthlink.net wrote: >68702 subtests Now _that_ might? be a record number of subtests attempted. -- Maynard _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:10:06 -0800 From: Ken Ames Subject: Re: fork I find it simply amazing with all the really good os2 system programmers out there that one of them has not implemented a decent fork. Henry Sabotka, Holger Veit, Knut St.Osmundsen, Sam Detweiler..... just to name a few of the many I believe could. Ken Henry Sobotka wrote: >Ken Ames wrote: > > >> is fork still a problem when switching to omf output? >> >> > >Yup. Same old story. > >h~ >_______________________________________________ >UX2BS mailing list >UX2BS at os2ports.com >http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs > > > _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:11:19 -0800 From: Ken Ames Subject: Re: fork hey all, sorry for the duplicate msg. my emailer(isp) said delivery failed but it didn't. Ken Ken Ames wrote: > I find it simply amazing with all the really good os2 system > programmers out there that one of them has not implemented a decent > fork. Henry Sabotka, Holger Veit, Knut St.Osmundsen, Sam > Detweiler..... just to name a few. > > Ken > _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:36:22 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: Problems building GREP I am unable to build GREP, and can't work out why... The errors I get occur in modules in the intl subdirectory which I don't think should be being built anyway since '--without-included-gettext' is specified as a configure parameter. How can I tell why this parameter is being ignored? -- John _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:52:24 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: Incorporating gcc v3.2.1 into UX2BS. An OS/2 port of gcc v3.2.1 has just been released and is now available from:- ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/incoming/gcc-3.2.1-r2/ What I would like to try and do is incorporate this release into UX2BS, but I'm not sure about the best way of doing it... If anyone installs this new version, could you see how well it builds Perl? If it does build it OK, I guess we could add it to the baseline set of apps when UX2BS is installed, although my preference would be to build this version directly from source with any patches which accompany the port, just to prove that anyone can build it without too much trouble. -- John _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 17 ==========================** Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 21:51:18 -0500 From: Henry Sobotka Subject: Re: latest ux2 Perl builds Maynard wrote: > > On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:10:53 -0700, brpms at earthlink.net wrote: > > >68702 subtests > > Now _that_ might? be a record number of subtests attempted. 68852 for the perl.exe on Hobbes, probably because of using 64-bit ints and adding the I18N/Langinfo module, and perhaps tests for -DDEBUGGING. Aside from build options, what libraries people have on their systems that Perl finds during Configure and plugs into also comes into play. h~ _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs **= Email 18 ==========================** Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 22:09:28 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: man pages? On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 09:10:53AM -0700, brpms at earthlink.net wrote: > I just did a new ux2_bootstrap. Seemed to work well. Didn't break perl The results look good. > Failed 5/726 test scripts, 99.31% okay. 7/68702 subtests failed, 99.99% > okay. Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of > Failed > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ../lib/ExtUtils/t/basic.t 1 256 17 1 5.88% 14 > lib/os2_base.t 1 256 19 1 5.26% 8 We need to sort this one out. > lib/os2_process.t 2 512 227 2 0.88% 174 209 > lib/os2_process_kid.t 227 2 0.88% 174 209 op/stat.t > 73 1 1.37% 44 > 61 tests and 563 subtests skipped. > > I note that we have man pages, but I can't find a man.exe. What do we > have to build to make them useful? MAN is proving a little tricky... You can try 'build man' - there is an entry for it in build.table, but I haven't figure out a way of building it so far, but please feel free to have a go yourself :-)... There are OS/2 ports of older versions available if you look, but I'd like to get the current one built, but it follows it own unique build method rather than the standard GNU procedure. I don't honestly know why it should be difficult to build, but I've drawn a blank with it. It is one of the basic apps that we ought to have and I like to be able to build, but the correct magic words have escaped me so far... > Thanks, > > Paul Schwartz > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > brpms at earthlink.net > ----------------------------------------------------------- -- John _______________________________________________ UX2BS mailing list UX2BS at os2ports.com http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs