Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 02:35:41 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600
Subject: [Ux2bs_Archive] No. 87

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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  perl build issues : Henry Sobotka <sobotka at axess.com>
2  Re:  Perl build on JFS : IanM" <IanM>
3  Re:  Perl build on JFS : IanM" <IanM>
4  Re:  Perl build on JFS : IanM" <IanM>
5  Re:  Perl build on JFS : IanM" <IanM>
6  Re:  perl build issues : brpms at earthlink.net
7  Re:  command shell for build system : Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
8  Re:  Perl build on JFS : Hannes Hromadka <HromadkaJ at gmx.at>
9  RESOLV vs RESOLV2 (Re:  Perl build on JFS) : Hannes Hromadka <HromadkaJ at gmx.at>
10   command shell for build system : Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
11  Re:  perl build issues : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
12  Re:  Build munges filesystem : Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc" <sma at sohnen-moe.com>
13  Re:  Build munges filesystem : Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc" <sma at sohnen-moe.com>
14  Re:  Build munges filesystem : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
15   UX2BS IS MOVING! : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
16   UX2BS IS MOVING! : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
17  Welcome to the "UX2BS" mailing list : ux2bs-request at os2ports.com
18  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING! : Ted Sikora <ted at os2ports.com>
19  Re:  Build munges filesystem : Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc" <sma at sohnen-moe.com>
20  Re:  Build munges filesystem : Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
21  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING! : Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
22  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING! : Ted Sikora <ted at os2ports.com>
23  Re:  UX2BS HAS MOVED : Ted Sikora <ted at os2ports.com>
24  Re:  Build munges filesystem : Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc" <sma at sohnen-moe.com>
25  Re:  Build munges filesystem : Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc" <sma at sohnen-moe.com>
26  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING! : Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
27  Re:  Build munges filesystem : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
28  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING! : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
29   test message : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
30  Re:  Build munges filesystem : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
31  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING! : Ted Sikora <ted at os2ports.com>
32  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING! : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
33  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING! : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
34  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING! : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
35  Re:  ux2_bootstrap ...progress : Hartmut Krafft" <hartmut at mail.ru>
36   list testing : multiple To: recipients : Maynard <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
37  Re:  list testing : multiple To: recipients : Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
38   Cleaning up ux2_inst.cmd some : James Moe" <jimoe at sohnen-moe.com>
39  Re:  Perl & Posix/2 : Thomas Hoffmann <thoffman at zappa.sax.de>
40  Re:  list testing : multiple To: recipients : Ted Sikora <ted at os2ports.com>

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:08:27 -0500
From:  Henry Sobotka <sobotka at axess.com>
Subject:  Re:  perl build issues

brpms at earthlink.net wrote:
> 
> Are the skipped tasks significant?  Are they supposed to be skipped?

They're supposed to be skipped. Most of the skips are tests that don't
apply, e.g. if you don't build with threads enabled, the thread tests
are skipped; or if there's a specific subtest for some other system
(e.g. Mac, Win32), it's skipped by other platforms. If you run tests
individually, in some cases the reason is output; or there a comment in
the test script may indicate why it's skipped.
 
> Here is an example that I don't understand
> 
> t/io/pipe............................Error reading "/no_such_process": No
> such file or directory at io/pipe.t line 186. g:/usr/bin/sh.exe:
> /no_such_process: not found
> ok
> 
> the file pipe.t is in that directory
> g:/usr/bin/sh.exe exists
> 
> why can't the install find them?

No, the file (pipe-end) that's not found is "/no_such_process" and the
test passes because the read fails, i.e. if sh were to be reading input
piped from a nonexistent process, it's time to call the plumber. Think
of it as creating an error condition to make sure it registers as such.

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:41:48 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "IanM" <IanM>
Subject:  Re:  Perl build on JFS

Hi

I've just build perl on a bootable JFS partition, PIII-600, 512Mb RAM

Failed 6/726 test scripts, 99.17% okay. 130/68687 subtests failed, 99.81% okay.

Sun Feb 23 23:37:25 GMT 2003
elapsed time: 2701 secs

Must say John, your ux2_bootstrap.cmd works wonders, and
rsync worked perfectly through my firewall this time.

Cheers
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:59:28 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "IanM" <IanM>
Subject:  Re:  Perl build on JFS

Hi John

>Well done, Ian. I was wondering whether you had ever tried it...

Today is my first day off work in 13 days, were I spent all the time
infront of comuters, hmm, so what do I do :-).
Previously I ment to bypass the firewall and try it again but .....
prior to now, I've tried a few times with limited success.

>As for a *bootable* JFS partition... I have to ask how you have managed to 
>create such a beast since my understanding is that JFS is not bootable at 
>this point in time... Are you using some sort of eCS enhancement to make 
>it such?

Not a public release thing yet but it seems very stable so far, so
I expect it will be released with eCS v1.1, though I'm not privy to
these things.

>> Failed 6/726 test scripts, 99.17% okay. 130/68687 subtests failed, 99.81% okay.
>Was one of the fails in lib/os2_ea.t ?

Did a search and its not in the log file, would it occur due to
the rexx additions ?  

>You seem to have performed more subtests than normal. I wonder why...

Might be all the other rubbish on that harddisk, and I'm also
using the korn shell, if that makes any difference, and I'm
using Jonathan de Boyne's OS/2 32bit command replacements.

Happy to send you the log if you want to go through it.

Cheers
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 02:00:33 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "IanM" <IanM>
Subject:  Re:  Perl build on JFS

Anyone looked at getting DBD-DBI built on this latest Perl ?
(or did I not look hard enough, and its already there)

Cheers
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 02:00:33 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "IanM" <IanM>
Subject:  Re:  Perl build on JFS

Anyone looked at getting DBD-DBI built on this latest Perl ?
(or did I not look hard enough, and its already there)

Cheers
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 06:53:19 -0700
From:  brpms at earthlink.net
Subject:  Re:  perl build issues

In <3E59A8CB.6D9A at axess.com>, on 02/24/03 
   at 12:08 AM, Henry Sobotka <sobotka at axess.com> said:

>No, the file (pipe-end) that's not found is "/no_such_process" and the
>test passes because the read fails, i.e. if sh were to be reading input
>piped from a nonexistent process, it's time to call the plumber. Think of
>it as creating an error condition to make sure it registers as such.

>h~

Thanks

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:48:13 -0600 (CST)
From:  "Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
Subject:  Re:  command shell for build system

Dave,

>It occurs to me that there might still be a command shell
>problem.

Your suggestion to test the shell by actually putting through a test is
worth considering, but there could be other differences in shells which
would also need testing and discovery.

Perhaps for now it's best to test %comspec% in ux2_inst.cmd

 at echo off
echo %comspec% >%temp%\ux2cmdtest
find /i "\\os2\\cmd.exe" %temp%\ux2cmdtest && goto PROCEED
echo critical test FAILED: comspec or os2_shell requirements
echo building the ux2 environmnet requires standard OS/2 command shell
\os2\cmd.exe
exit
:PROCEED

Better yet however may be to check %os2_shell%
While it's one thing to launch a COMSPEC of os2\cmd.exe just by running
it from whatever shell you're in, ux2 probably wants the shell
generated by its "call" statements to be \os2\cmd.exe

gotta run now ...

later,

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:43:09 +0100
From:  Hannes Hromadka <HromadkaJ at gmx.at>
Subject:  Re:  Perl build on JFS

On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 02:56:49PM +0100, Sebastian Wittmeier (ShadoW) wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:48:37 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> >I could never determine where the rexx code that the test used was 
> >located. If it is in some file it should be easy enough to convert it 
> >before the test runs...
> 
> That is easy.
> It is inside \unixos2\workdir\perl-5.8.0\t\lib\rx_cmprt.t itself.
> 
> However, in the long term we need a better solution.
> Regina rexx exists on other operating systems, and we want to be
> compatible to ease porting Perl applications.

IBMs Object Rexx is available for Linux and Win** too. (Not for free)

I have Object Rexx installed wherever it is possible (OS/2 on all but one boxes,
Winbox in my office, Linux Server) Regina Rexx is nice but lacks a SysFileTree 
replacement that works.

But I see no need in mixing Perl and Rexx. I mostly do scripts in
OORexx, Perl is needed for a lot of configure scripts, thats why I have
it installed on OS/2.

All People I know which develop in Perl do not use Rexx.


    Ciao,  Hannes

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:06:49 +0100
From:  Hannes Hromadka <HromadkaJ at gmx.at>
Subject:  RESOLV vs RESOLV2 (Re:  Perl build on JFS)

On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 10:43:24AM +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> I have never been very clear about the difference in usage between RESOLV 
> and RESOLV2. Originally (TCP/IP v1.2) there was only RESOLV, but at some 
> point RESOLV2 was introduced and no mention is made of RESOLV although it 
> is used if available.

RESOLV2 is for LAN connection.
RESOLV is for dial up connections and has priority over RESOLV2

The Dialer is responsible for creating and _deleting_ RESOLV. On a
dialup only system there should be no RESOLV2.

If there is no dial up connection active there should be no RESOLV.

So on a offline standalone OS/2 workstation there should be neiter a
RESOLV nor a RESOLV2 file, only the HOSTS file is important then.

If you have a RESOLV2 the Nameservers listed there should work.

The way OS/2 handles resolving is very different from Linux or Solaris.

Well written OS/2 programms should respect the USE_HOSTS_FIRST
environement variable. (Mozilla does not)


    Ciao,  Hannes

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:19:47 +0000 (GMT)
From:  "Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
Subject:   command shell for build system

Been following the newsgroups, and here, on people trying to use the
system. It occurs to me that there might still be a command shell
problem. 

You will recall that YAOS, which I use exclusively, will not see an
environmental changed in a  called script. ie calling ux2_env.cmd
form the command line does nothing. We don't know how many other cmd
replacements don't do it either. A test I thought of would be to have
ux2_env.cmd set a variable called "unixos2" to "env_setup" and then
testing for that after the call. Thus you could bomb out if the shell
in use did not work like os/2 cmd.

Just a thought.

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:57:20 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  perl build issues

On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 09:05:40PM -0700, brpms at earthlink.net wrote:
> My computer froze during the perl build of ux2_bootstrap [too many mozilla
> windows probably].  After the reboot, I deleted the perl part of workdir
> and did build perl.  This second build seems to give better statistics at
> the end:

I'm glad you managed to rebuild it. It's always better to start from 
scratch rather than trying to move things around manually.

 
> Failed 4/726 test scripts, 99.45% okay. 6/68652 subtests failed, 99.99%
> okay. Failed Test               Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of
> Failed
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ../lib/ExtUtils/t/basic.t    1   256    17    1   5.88%  14
> ../lib/Net/t/hostname.t                  2    1  50.00%  1
> lib/os2_process.t            2   512   227    2   0.88%  174 209
> lib/os2_process_kid.t                  227    2   0.88%  174 209 63 tests
> and 557 subtests skipped.
> 
> Are the skipped tasks significant?  Are they supposed to be skipped?

To some extent this depends on the nature of the tests. Some are platform 
specific. There is no reason to run tests specific to VMS for instance.

It seems that some tests are skipped because of the absence of certain 
headers. I noticed that with Stefan's build using Posix/2, an extra 153 
subtests were performed. There may well be even more tests which could be 
performed. Maybe it's something we should look at... Once I have a 
reliable Posix/2 build, I check which headers and functions are still 
missing. It may well be that we could include pthreads or crypt at some 
point...

> Thanks for the help.  If I learn enough I may be able to contribute.
> 
> Paul Schwartz
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:00:42 -0700 (MST)
From:  "Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc" <sma at sohnen-moe.com>
Subject:  Re:  Build munges filesystem

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:20:42 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>
>What did you try? How did you try building it? Did you look at the build 
>log for that app
>
1. I tried update_base and got failures. It downloaded byacc, flex,
autoconf, automake, and a few others.
2. I went to WORKDIR and ran "build autoconf-2.50".
3. Yes, it was attached to the original message.

>>   At the end is a message "build.sh[153]: cannot fork - try again" which signals the 
>> end of the filesystem's usefulness. Yes, the filesystem. 
>
>I take it that you are trying to build on a compressed filesystem 
>(zipstream)...
>
  As I mentioned, yes. The compressed filesystem is mounted on JFS.

>Please try it on standard local filesystem such as HPFS or JFS and see if 
>this happens
>
  As I mentioned, yes.

>>   Line 153 of build.sh:
>> cp -p $BLD_HOME/lib/aux/mkinstalldirs .
>> 
>> i:/unixos2/lib/aux/mkinstalldirs is not updated.
>
>This doesn't make any sense. It implies that CWD is i:\unixos2\lib\aux ...
>
  It does not actually execute the command since the fork() failed when sh
tried to span the process.

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:06:15 -0700 (MST)
From:  "Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc" <sma at sohnen-moe.com>
Subject:  Re:  Build munges filesystem

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:20:42 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>>   I ran ux2_bootstrap.cmd and it built a unixos2 environment, and successfully built 
>> perl v5.8.0. 
>
>That's good to hear.
>
>It would be useful if you could post the test results summary from near 
>the end of your perl.log. That way we can see how successful the build has 
>been and whether the results are in line with other people's.
>
>

This line shows in every "set" or "env" command after running a build:

_emx_sig=00007e84:00000000

The number changes, but the variable persists.


- ----[ The tail of perl.log ]----

Failed 5/726 test scripts, 99.31% okay. 15/68462 subtests failed, 99.98%
okay.
Failed Test               Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of
Failed
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- ---
../lib/ExtUtils/t/basic.t    1   256    17    1   5.88%  14
lib/os2_ea.t                            21    8  38.10%  7-11 14-16
lib/os2_process.t            2   512   227    2   0.88%  174 209
lib/rx_cmprt.t             255 65280    18    3  16.67%  16-18
op/stat.t                               73    1   1.37%  44
60 tests and 563 subtests skipped.

[I:\unixos2\workdir\perl-5.8.0\t]cp perl.exe i:/usr/bin 

[I:\unixos2\workdir\perl-5.8.0\t]cp perl*.dll i:/usr/lib


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PATH=i:\usr\bin;i:\emx\bin;i:\usr\local\bin;c:\os2;
DPATH=c:\os2\system
BLD_HOME=i:/unixos2
CFLAGS=
ETC=i:\etc
CONFIG_SITE=
CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH=i:/usr/include/cpp;i:/usr/include;i:/emx/include/cpp;i:/e
mx/include
C_INCLUDE_PATH=i:/usr/include;i:/emx/include
LIBRARY_PATH=i:/usr/lib;i:/emx/lib
HOME=i:/home/root
COMSPEC=c:\os2\cmd.exe
REPOSITORY=i:/unixos2/archives/source
BUILDLOGS=i:/unixos2/logs
LDFLAGS=
BLDRT=i:
OS2_SHELL=c:\os2\cmd.exe
TERM=ansi-color-3
OSRT=c:
WORKDIR=i:/unixos2/workdir
OS2PATH=i:\usr\bin;i:\emx\bin;i:\usr\local\bin;c:\os2;
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The Operating System/2 Version is 4.50 
Revision 14.088 

Wed Feb 19 10:50:57 GMT 2003
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:20:42 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  Build munges filesystem

On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 06:03:50PM -0700, James Moe wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
>   I ran ux2_bootstrap.cmd and it built a unixos2 environment, and successfully built 
> perl v5.8.0. 

That's good to hear.

It would be useful if you could post the test results summary from near 
the end of your perl.log. That way we can see how successful the build has 
been and whether the results are in line with other people's.

> It has not built anything since.

What did you try? How did you try building it? Did you look at the build 
log for that app

>   A typical log file is listed below (it's short) for autoconf v2.50.

That logs says that you already tried building this app previously since 
the patches are rejected. What happened the first time? If you want to try 
repeating a build you should delete that apps directory from WORKDIR 
otherwise you will get indeterminate results because of the some 
processing by a previous build.

>   At the end is a message "build.sh[153]: cannot fork - try again" which signals the 
> end of the filesystem's usefulness. Yes, the filesystem. 

I take it that you are trying to build on a compressed filesystem 
(zipstream)...

Please try it on standard local filesystem such as HPFS or JFS and see if 
this happens

> Very fortunately this is not a 
> permanent condition; all is functional again after a (required!) reboot.
>   One of the side effects of munging the filesystem is that errors messages from build 
> show up as files ("a non-recoverable error has occurred..."), and subdirectories do not 
> exist. Also new os/2 windows do not open.
> 
>   Line 153 of build.sh:
> cp -p $BLD_HOME/lib/aux/mkinstalldirs .
> 
> i:/unixos2/lib/aux/mkinstalldirs is not updated.

This doesn't make any sense. It implies that CWD is i:\unixos2\lib\aux ...

 
> 
> System:
> amd ahtlon 1800
> 512 MB ram
> c:     scsi Quantum viking 4.5GB
> d:, e: scsi Fujitsu 18GB
> 
> os/2 server v4.5 fp xr-e003
> jfs: Oct 16 2002
> c: hpfs386
> d: jfs
> e: jfs
> i: compressed drive on E: using Zipstream
> 
> (Yes, I did try to install it directly on E:. It made no difference.)
> 
> 
> - ----[ autoconf build log (abbreviated) ]----
> 
> 
> 
> DIR URL CFLAGS LDFLAGS CFGPARMS MAKEPARM SRC
> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/autoconf/autoconf-2.50.tar.gz --prefix=${UXRT}/usr/local/TMP 
> .
> URL ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/autoconf/autoconf-2.50.tar.gz
> CFLAGS
> LDFLAGS
> CFGPARMS --prefix=${UXRT}/usr/local/TMP
> MAKEPARM
> SRC .
> REPOSITORY/ARCHIVEFILE = i:/unixos2/archives/source/source/source/autoconf-2.50.tar.gz
> autoconf-2.50.tar.gz already retrieved
> i:/unixos2/workdir
> i:/unixos2/workdir/autoconf-2.50
> patching file `acgeneral.m4'
> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] 
> Apply anyway? [n] 
> Skipping patch.
> 4 out of 4 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to acgeneral.m4#
> 
> ...[ several other ignored patches ]...
> 
> ./configure --prefix=${UXRT}/usr/local/TMP
> CONFIGURE.: loading site script i:/unixos2/lib/config.site
> CONFIGURE.: creating cache /dev/null
> checking for a BSD compatible install... i:/usr/bin/install.exe
> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
> checking for working aclocal... missing
> checking for working autoconf... missing
> checking for working automake... cp -p i:/unixos2/lib/aux/mkinstalldirs
> build.sh[153]: cannot fork - try again


Did you try building this app yourself or was it done as part of running 
update_base.cmd?


 
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:01:59 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:   UX2BS IS MOVING!

To a much faster server with full archiving. I will migrate the list 
shortly. Everyone will get an email saying they were subscribed and will 
be given a password. You can go back in under 'UX2BS Subscribers' and 
use the 'Unsubscribe or edit options' button to change your password if 
you so desire.
Remember don't do this till you recieve an email that you have been 
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:18:18 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:   UX2BS IS MOVING!

To a much faster server with full archiving. I will migrate the list
shortly. Everyone will get an email saying they were subscribed and will
be given a password. You can go back in under 'UX2BS Subscribers' and
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Remember don't do this till you recieve an email that you have been
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:13:33 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <ted at os2ports.com>
Subject:  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING!

It's official this is the new home of UX2BS.

Ted Sikora wrote:

> To a much faster server with full archiving. I will migrate the list
> shortly. Everyone will get an email saying they were subscribed and will
> be given a password. You can go back in under 'UX2BS Subscribers' and
> use the 'Unsubscribe or edit options' button to change your password if
> you so desire.
> Remember don't do this till you recieve an email that you have been
> subscribed. I'll leave the old list active till all subscribers know it
> has moved.
>
> http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs
>
> -- 
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> tsikora at ntplx.net
>
>
>
> 

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:56:37 -0700 (MST)
From:  "Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc" <sma at sohnen-moe.com>
Subject:  Re:  Build munges filesystem

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>> 2. I went to WORKDIR and ran "build autoconf-2.50".
>
>When trying to build anything you should do it from the \unixos2\lib 
>directory. That is where the build command is.
>
  My mistake. It was from /unixos2/lib.

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:41:27 -0600 (CST)
From:  "Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
Subject:  Re:  Build munges filesystem

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:13:02 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>> _emx_sig=00007e84:00000000
>> 
>> The number changes, but the variable persists.
>
>I have no idea what the purpose of this is, but it seems to be created by 
>EMX.DLL.

only from sh # prompt and not in response to echo $_emx_sig

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:42:57 -0600 (CST)
From:  "Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
Subject:  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING!

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:13:33 -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:

>It's official this is the new home of UX2BS.

Thanks Ted.

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:04:40 +0000
From:  Ted Sikora <ted at os2ports.com>
Subject:  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING!


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Thanks check out the archives...
http://os2ports.com/pipermail/ux2bs/

Maynard wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:13:33 -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:
>
>  
>
>>It's official this is the new home of UX2BS.
>>    
>>
>
>Thanks Ted.
>
>-- Maynard
>
>
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Thanks check out the archives...<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://os2ports.com/pipermail/ux2bs/">http://os2ports.com/pipermail/ux2bs/</a><br>
<br>
Maynard wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
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  <pre wrap="">On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:13:33 -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:

  </pre>
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:19:32 +0000
From:  Ted Sikora <ted at os2ports.com>
Subject:  Re:  UX2BS HAS MOVED

This list has moved to ux2bs at os2ports.com
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:33:08 -0700 (MST)
From:  "Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc" <sma at sohnen-moe.com>
Subject:  Re:  Build munges filesystem

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>>> _emx_sig=00007e84:00000000
>>> 
>>> The number changes, but the variable persists.
>only from sh # prompt and not in response to echo $_emx_sig
>
  Digging into the EMX source revealed this: _emx_sig is used to pass
information to child processes. The first number is the parent PID; the
second number is the parent's SIGSET. Details are in /emx/src/os2/process.c
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:39:58 -0700 (MST)
From:  "Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc" <sma at sohnen-moe.com>
Subject:  Re:  Build munges filesystem

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>
>> 2. I went to WORKDIR and ran "build autoconf-2.50".
>
  Well, I ran it from /unixos2/lib, not WORKDIR. I am easily confused.
  Further, this is the only app that I found to behave in such a bizarre
manner. I have since discovered "build.table". If an app is not listed
there, I am SOL.
  I ran "build autoconf" (no version number) and it built as expected. I
also built several other apps (less, bison, byacc, flex, termcap) without
little difficulty.


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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:49:23 -0600 (CST)
From:  "Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
Subject:  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING!

Ted,

Two comments follow.

>Thanks check out the archives...
>http://os2ports.com/pipermail/ux2bs/

Your message was sent both directly and to the list. So far I've only
received the direct post, not from the list. I do see it in the
archives however, so perhaps it's still in the outbound queue, or maybe
they merged into a single outbound. [1]

I like the idea of archives which don't require subscription, at least
for this list; but the downside is probably the spambot scrapable email
addresses. In that light, limiting archive access to subscribers would
be acceptable.

Thanks again,

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[1] I'm sending this both direct and via list; to let you see if you
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:13:02 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  Build munges filesystem

On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:06:15AM -0700, Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc wrote:
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> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:20:42 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> This line shows in every "set" or "env" command after running a build:
> 
> _emx_sig=00007e84:00000000
> 
> The number changes, but the variable persists.

I have no idea what the purpose of this is, but it seems to be created by 
EMX.DLL.
 
> 
> - ----[ The tail of perl.log ]----
> 
> Failed 5/726 test scripts, 99.31% okay. 15/68462 subtests failed, 99.98%  okay.
> Failed Test               Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ../lib/ExtUtils/t/basic.t    1   256    17    1   5.88%  14


> lib/os2_ea.t                            21    8  38.10%  7-11 14-16

This seems to be a JFS signature...


> lib/os2_process.t            2   512   227    2   0.88%  174 209
> lib/rx_cmprt.t             255 65280    18    3  16.67%  16-18
> op/stat.t                               73    1   1.37%  44
> 60 tests and 563 subtests skipped

Everything else looks normal, although you didn't get any fails in 
os2_process_kid.t which is unusual.

Also the number of subtests run and skipped is different to normal, but 
all in all the results seem very much in line with what other people 
have got.




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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:18:40 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING!

On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:13:33PM -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:
> It's official this is the new home of UX2BS.


So, what happens when someone replies to a msg which originated from 
powerusersbbs.net ?

I'll give it a try and find out...

 
> Ted Sikora wrote:
> 
> > To a much faster server with full archiving. I will migrate the list
> > shortly. Everyone will get an email saying they were subscribed and will
> > be given a password. You can go back in under 'UX2BS Subscribers' and
> > use the 'Unsubscribe or edit options' button to change your password if
> > you so desire.
> > Remember don't do this till you recieve an email that you have been
> > subscribed. I'll leave the old list active till all subscribers know it
> > has moved.
> >
> > http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs
> >
> > -- 
> > Ted Sikora
> > tsikora at ntplx.net


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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:21:06 +0000
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:   test message

test

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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:31:26 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  Build munges filesystem

On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:00:42AM -0700, Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:20:42 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> >
> >What did you try? How did you try building it? Did you look at the build 
> >log for that app
> >
> 1. I tried update_base and got failures. It downloaded byacc, flex,
> autoconf, automake, and a few others.

Did you look at the logs for these apps? Which ones got built 
successfully?

> 2. I went to WORKDIR and ran "build autoconf-2.50".

When trying to build anything you should do it from the \unixos2\lib 
directory. That is where the build command is.

I can't imagine what would have happened with your command at the location 
you ran it. I don't see how it could have found a 'build' executable.

> 3. Yes, it was attached to the original message.

It looked quite garbled and I couldn't make much sense of it. You can see 
a number of logs for good builds here:-

http://warped.mentabolism.org/UnixOS2/logs/

Check yours against those there and they may shed some light on any 
problems.
 
> >>   At the end is a message "build.sh[153]: cannot fork - try again" which signals the 
> >> end of the filesystem's usefulness. Yes, the filesystem. 
> >
> >I take it that you are trying to build on a compressed filesystem 
> >(zipstream)...
> >
>   As I mentioned, yes. The compressed filesystem is mounted on JFS.
> 
> >Please try it on standard local filesystem such as HPFS or JFS and see if 
> >this happens
> >
>   As I mentioned, yes.

In that case I can't think what the problem might be due to. The system 
does not do anything particularly clever as far as file access goes and 
no one else has reported anything remotely like a munged filesystem as a 
result of building any apps.

Have you had any other problems with JFS?


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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:32:30 +0000
From:  Ted Sikora <ted at os2ports.com>
Subject:  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING!


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Ted Sikora wrote:

> Never made the list. I don't think you can have multiple to: lines 
> I'll try  cc:
>
> Maynard wrote:
>
>>Ted,
>>
>>Two comments follow.
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Thanks check out the archives...
>>>http://os2ports.com/pipermail/ux2bs/
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>Your message was sent both directly and to the list. So far I've only
>>received the direct post, not from the list. I do see it in the
>>archives however, so perhaps it's still in the outbound queue, or maybe
>>they merged into a single outbound. [1]
>>
>>I like the idea of archives which don't require subscription, at least
>>for this list; but the downside is probably the spambot scrapable email
>>addresses. In that light, limiting archive access to subscribers would
>>be acceptable.
>>
>>Thanks again,
>>
>>-- Maynard
>>
>>[1] I'm sending this both direct and via list; to let you see if you
>>get both.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>


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       Never made the list. I don't think you can have multiple to: lines
I'll try &nbsp;cc: <br>
 <br>
 Maynard wrote:<br>
 
  <blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid200302241949.h1OJniWL000346 at dhcp-209-54-72-114.ct.dsl.ntplx.com"> 
  
    <pre wrap="">Ted,

Two comments follow.

  </pre>
   
    <blockquote type="cite">     
      <pre wrap="">Thanks check out the archives...
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://os2ports.com/pipermail/ux2bs/">http://os2ports.com/pipermail/ux2bs/</a>
    </pre>
   </blockquote>
   
    <pre wrap=""><!---->
Your message was sent both directly and to the list. So far I've only
received the direct post, not from the list. I do see it in the
archives however, so perhaps it's still in the outbound queue, or maybe
they merged into a single outbound. [1]

I like the idea of archives which don't require subscription, at least
for this list; but the downside is probably the spambot scrapable email
addresses. In that light, limiting archive access to subscribers would
be acceptable.

Thanks again,

-- Maynard

[1] I'm sending this both direct and via list; to let you see if you
get both.




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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:35:54 +0000
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING!

CC: works but multiple To:'s  don't. I checked 'Pending Admin' Just a 
post from John before he was a member was held. I'll check the logs to 
find out what happened to it.

Ted Sikora wrote:
> CC: test
> 
> Ted Sikora wrote:
> 
>> Never made the list. I don't think you can have multiple to: lines 
>> I'll try  cc:
>>
>> Maynard wrote:
>>
>>>Ted,
>>>
>>>Two comments follow.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>Thanks check out the archives...
>>>>http://os2ports.com/pipermail/ux2bs/
>>>>    
>>>>
>>>
>>>Your message was sent both directly and to the list. So far I've only
>>>received the direct post, not from the list. I do see it in the
>>>archives however, so perhaps it's still in the outbound queue, or maybe
>>>they merged into a single outbound. [1]
>>>
>>>I like the idea of archives which don't require subscription, at least
>>>for this list; but the downside is probably the spambot scrapable email
>>>addresses. In that light, limiting archive access to subscribers would
>>>be acceptable.
>>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>
>>>-- Maynard
>>>
>>>[1] I'm sending this both direct and via list; to let you see if you
>>>get both.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> UX2BS at os2ports.com
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:42:39 +0000
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING!

Maynard did you get 2 copies of this? Can you check the archives and see 
if you got everything?

http://os2ports.com/pipermail/ux2bs/

I'm worried now seems like the only posts I got are from myself.

I can make the archives private to list members. I'll take a vote after 
a week or so.

Ted Sikora wrote:
> CC: works but multiple To:'s  don't. I checked 'Pending Admin' Just a 
> post from John before he was a member was held. I'll check the logs to 
> find out what happened to it.
> 
> Ted Sikora wrote:
> 
>> CC: test
>>
>> Ted Sikora wrote:
>>
>>> Never made the list. I don't think you can have multiple to: lines 
>>> I'll try  cc:
>>>
>>> Maynard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ted,
>>>>
>>>> Two comments follow.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks check out the archives...
>>>>> http://os2ports.com/pipermail/ux2bs/
>>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your message was sent both directly and to the list. So far I've only
>>>> received the direct post, not from the list. I do see it in the
>>>> archives however, so perhaps it's still in the outbound queue, or maybe
>>>> they merged into a single outbound. [1]
>>>>
>>>> I like the idea of archives which don't require subscription, at least
>>>> for this list; but the downside is probably the spambot scrapable email
>>>> addresses. In that light, limiting archive access to subscribers would
>>>> be acceptable.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> -- Maynard
>>>>
>>>> [1] I'm sending this both direct and via list; to let you see if you
>>>> get both.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> UX2BS mailing list
>> UX2BS at os2ports.com
>> http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs
> 
> 
> 


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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:47:36 +0000
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:  Re:  UX2BS IS MOVING!



John Poltorak wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:13:33PM -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:
> 
>>It's official this is the new home of UX2BS.
> 
> 
> 
> So, what happens when someone replies to a msg which originated from 
> powerusersbbs.net ?

Will be rejected because ux2bs at powerusersbbs.net is not a member.
Their are 2 UX2BS list running one at powerusersbbs and os2ports
when everyomene is using os2ports I'll shut the other one down. The only 
graceful solution I can think of except make ux2bs at powerusersbbs.net a 
member?


> 
> I'll give it a try and find out...
> 
>  
> 
>>Ted Sikora wrote:
>>
>>
>>>To a much faster server with full archiving. I will migrate the list
>>>shortly. Everyone will get an email saying they were subscribed and will
>>>be given a password. You can go back in under 'UX2BS Subscribers' and
>>>use the 'Unsubscribe or edit options' button to change your password if
>>>you so desire.
>>>Remember don't do this till you recieve an email that you have been
>>>subscribed. I'll leave the old list active till all subscribers know it
>>>has moved.
>>>
>>>http://os2ports.com/mailman/listinfo/ux2bs
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>Ted Sikora
>>>tsikora at ntplx.net
>>
> 
> 


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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:03:27 +0100 (MEZ)
From:  "Hartmut Krafft" <hartmut at mail.ru>
Subject:  Re:  ux2_bootstrap ...progress

On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:57:22 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 10:23:41PM +0100, Hartmut Krafft wrote:

>> Also, I get 'Too many open files in shell' during the 'make depend' which may be related.
>> I tried adding "SET EMXOPT=-h1024" to Config.sys, but did not see a change. 

Dang! It seems (and from reading through the other messages, I think it is that way), that 
the Config.Sys-set environment doesn't get through to the build system.

So I added 'echo SET EMXOPT=-h2048>>ux2_env.cmd' to ux2_inst.cmd, set this to r/o, and 
started over.
(If there's a better place to add this, please tell me.)

Maybe one should add this option to the standard command files...

Now, after about eight hours of work-out for the 'puter, the process has finished.
Here' part of the results:
---
Failed 17/726 test scripts, 97.66% okay. 97/68208 subtests failed,
99.86% okay.
Failed Test                  Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of
Failed
-------------------------------------------------------
../ext/DB_File/t/db-btree.t     0    15    ??   ??       %  ??
../ext/DB_File/t/db-hash.t      0    15    ??   ??       %  ??
../ext/DB_File/t/db-recno.t     0    15    ??   ??       %  ??
../ext/Time/HiRes/HiRes.t                  25    2   8.00%  3 5
../lib/AnyDBM_File.t            0    15    12   12 100.00%  1-12
../lib/AutoSplit.t              3   768    58    3   5.17%  47-48 51
../lib/ExtUtils/t/Constant.t  255 65280    51   49  96.08%  3-51
../lib/ExtUtils/t/basic.t       9  2304    17    9  52.94%  7-14 17
../lib/Memoize/t/errors.t       0    15    11    8  72.73%  4-11
../lib/Memoize/t/tie.t          0    15    ??   ??       %  ??
../lib/Net/t/hostname.t                     2    1  50.00%  1
lib/os2_process.t               3   768   227    3   1.32%  90 174 209
lib/os2_process_kid.t                     227    3   1.32%  90 174 209
lib/rx_cmprt.t                255 65280    18    3  16.67%  16-18
op/magic.t                                 46    2   4.35%  29-30
op/stat.t                                  73    1   1.37%  44
run/fresh_perl.t                           97    1   1.03%  91
63 tests and 556 subtests skipped.
---

Can't tell you the exact time this took, as the system clock on this box jumped during the 
process to the date of 1-1-1980, while the time stayed right.

(Have to check if the TZ is set the right way, though this should be unrelated; the clock on 
this box is a bit flaky, but to date only at boot time. Oh well. FYI: it's an IBM PS/VP 6384.)

Should I try again or be content with what I've got?
And: where do I go from here? 
Is there a package known to build nicely that I could test next?
Where should I unpack the sources?
And, as all the paths and such are set in the scripts, I think it is not possible to just open a 
command window and issue the standard commands (like 'make')?

Greetings
Hartmut



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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:12:41 -0600 (CST)
From:  Maynard <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
Subject:   list testing : multiple To: recipients

Hi Ted,

Sorry I wasn't attentive real-time during your testing.
This message is To: you and the list
It will leave here with one message to each destination; why would the
list drop the copy to it?

Here it goes .....

-- Maynard


On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:35:54 +0000, Ted Sikora wrote:

>CC: works but multiple To:'s  don't.



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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:23:22 -0600 (CST)
From:  "Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
Subject:  Re:  list testing : multiple To: recipients

This is for Ted (To: the list however) to show that my send toward
multiple To:s did reach the list distribution and return to me.

Ted, note the Reply-To:

g'nite from here,

--Maynard

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:12:41 -0600 (CST), Maynard wrote:

>Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:12:41 -0600 (CST)
>From: Maynard <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
>To: Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>, UX2 Build System <ux2bs at os2ports.com>
>Subject:  list testing : multiple To: recipients
>X-BeenThere: ux2bs at os2ports.com
>X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
>Reply-To: Maynard <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>,
>   UX2 Build System
>	<ux2bs at os2ports.com>
>List-Id: UX2 Build System <ux2bs.os2ports.com>
....
>Sender: ux2bs-bounces at os2ports.com
>Errors-To: ux2bs-bounces at os2ports.com



>Hi Ted,
>
>Sorry I wasn't attentive real-time during your testing.
>This message is To: you and the list
>It will leave here with one message to each destination; why would the
>list drop the copy to it?
>
>Here it goes .....

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**= Email   38 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:35:19 -0700 (MST)
From:  "James Moe" <jimoe at sohnen-moe.com>
Subject:   Cleaning up ux2_inst.cmd some

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Hello,

- ----[ 1 ]----
  I found a problem that was annoying when initally installing unixos2. I kept seeing 
that message 

    "/k c:\autoexec.cmd=(null)"

float by. "What could this mean?" I wondered.
  It's an artifact from the operating system. Entering either "set" or "env" yields

    /k c:\autoexec.cmd

as an environment variable. This is a defect|error|bug|feature. I have this line in 
config.sys:

   set os2_shell=c:\os2\cmd.exe /k c:\autoexec.cmd

which is reported as two lines:

    set os2_shell=c:\os2\cmd.exe
    /k c:\autoexec.cmd

This groaty (sp?) little bit is propogated into ux2_env.cmd and zap_env.cmd. The 
following works as a filter in ux2_inst.cmd:
Change:
  ux2_inst.cmd:echo env ^ sed "s/^/set /;s/=.*$/=/" ^ > \
    zap_env.cmd >> ux2_env.cmd

To:
  ux2_inst.cmd:echo env ^| grep -iv "^/k.*$"| sed "s/^/set /;s/=.*$/=/" ^ > \
    zap_env.cmd >> ux2_env.cmd


- ----[ 2 ]----
  Repeatedly running ux2_inst.cmd creates a BLD_HOME that is bogus: BDLRT is prepended 
to BLD_HOME each time ux2_inst.cmd i2 run.

This is a workaround:
Change:
  set bld_home=%bldrt%/%bld_home%
To:
  if [%bld_home%] == [unixos2] set bld_home=%bldrt%/%bld_home%

Is there some known initial value for BLD_HOME so that '[unixos2]' need not be 
hardwired into the script?


- ----[ 3 ]----
  There was a thread about the TZ variable but I missed all but the last of it.
  I added
    set TZ=MST7
before the "rsync" command in ux2_inst.cmd. This gets rid of a lot of spurious messages 
about a missing TZ variable. (I used MST7 since that is where I am.)
  Also at the end I added this:
    echo set TZ=MST7 >>ux2_env.cmd

  The TZ thread was bemoaning the sad state of most TZ values. So? If nothing else, set 
it to a proper UTC value to get rid of all the useless messages. There is enough cruft 
being emitted during builds without adding to it.

- ----[ 4 ]----
  (If this is covered somewhere, I apologize.)

  Some intro material about how the build process works could have saved me a bucnh of 
time. Especially the importance of /uinxos2/lib/build.table. If an application is not 
listed in that document, it WILL NOT BUILD.
  Also some info on how the enviroment is built up during the installation process 
would be good.
  May be rename "ux2_clean.cmd" to "ux2_expunge_everything_ux2.cmd"?





- --
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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:08:43 +0100
From:  Thomas Hoffmann <thoffman at zappa.sax.de>
Subject:  Re:  Perl & Posix/2

Maybe this is related:
I remember that my attempt to use Posix/2's itimer() function for 
profiling in my port of R hung the system, the last words were 
"itimer.c: AlarmThread(): Wait until interval timer expires ..." (I then 
built an emulation along the lines of the Windows version, which works). 
I did not further experiment with the itimer() code, but remember a 
short description in libcext's doc directory, which mentions some of the 
pecularities of itimer.

Stefan.Neis at t-online.de wrote:
>         Hi,
>>>./ext/IO/lib/IO/t/io_poll.t                10    1  10.00%  3
>>>./ext/Time/HiRes/HiRes.t        3   768    25    6  24.00%  20-25
>>
>>  
>>These may be Posix/2 related.
> 
> 
> For HiRes, it looks like something goes wrong with signal handling,
> the process apparently dies on a SIGALRM, that should tell it to
> continue its work. :-(
>   



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Date:  Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:42:26 +0000
From:  Ted Sikora <ted at os2ports.com>
Subject:  Re:  list testing : multiple To: recipients


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In the am:
Use ted at dumbdog.org instead it's hard to tell because ted at os2ports.com 
is a list member.

Maynard wrote:

>This is for Ted (To: the list however) to show that my send toward
>multiple To:s did reach the list distribution and return to me.
>
>Ted, note the Reply-To:
>
>g'nite from here,
>
>--Maynard
>
>On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:12:41 -0600 (CST), Maynard wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:12:41 -0600 (CST)
>>From: Maynard <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
>>To: Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>, UX2 Build System <ux2bs at os2ports.com>
>>Subject:  list testing : multiple To: recipients
>>X-BeenThere: ux2bs at os2ports.com
>>X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
>>Reply-To: Maynard <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>,
>>  UX2 Build System
>>	<ux2bs at os2ports.com>
>>List-Id: UX2 Build System <ux2bs.os2ports.com>
>>    
>>
>....
>  
>
>>Sender: ux2bs-bounces at os2ports.com
>>Errors-To: ux2bs-bounces at os2ports.com
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>  
>
>>Hi Ted,
>>
>>Sorry I wasn't attentive real-time during your testing.
>>This message is To: you and the list
>>It will leave here with one message to each destination; why would the
>>list drop the copy to it?
>>
>>Here it goes .....
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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  <pre wrap="">This is for Ted (To: the list however) to show that my send toward
multiple To:s did reach the list distribution and return to me.

Ted, note the Reply-To:

g'nite from here,

--Maynard

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:12:41 -0600 (CST), Maynard wrote:

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To: Ted Sikora <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tsikora at ntplx.net">&lt;tsikora at ntplx.net&gt;</a>, UX2 Build System <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ux2bs at os2ports.com">&lt;ux2bs at os2ports.com&gt;</a>
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  UX2 Build System
	<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ux2bs at os2ports.com">&lt;ux2bs at os2ports.com&gt;</a>
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    <pre wrap="">Hi Ted,

Sorry I wasn't attentive real-time during your testing.
This message is To: you and the list
It will leave here with one message to each destination; why would the
list drop the copy to it?

Here it goes .....
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