Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:04:17 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [UnixOS2_Archive] No. 430 ************************************************** Wednesday 27 October 2004 Number 430 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: XFreeOS2 list gone? : Holger Veit 2 Re: NCURSES 5.4 : John Poltorak 3 Re: XFreeOS2 list gone? : John Poltorak 4 Re: NCURSES 5.4 : Thomas Dickey 5 Re: NCURSES 5.4 : John Poltorak 6 Re: NCURSES 5.4 : Thomas Dickey 7 Re: NCURSES 5.4 : John Poltorak 8 Re: Warpzilla build progress : John Poltorak 9 Re: CLAM AntiVirus software : Steve Wendt" 10 Re: (OT?) XFree86 mailing list status : Steve Wendt" 11 Re: (OT?) XFree86 mailing list status : Kris Steenhaut 12 Eureka! : John Poltorak 13 Posix/2 sys\select.h & NBBY : John Poltorak 14 Re: Posix/2 sys\select.h & NBBY : Stefan.Neis at t-online.de 15 Re: Posix/2 sys\select.h & NBBY : John Poltorak 16 Re: Eureka! : Henry Sobotka 17 Re: Subversion : John Poltorak 18 Re: Posix/2 sys\select.h & NBBY : Stefan.Neis at t-online.de 19 Re: Posix/2 sys\select.h & NBBY : Thomas Dickey 20 Re: Subversion : Robert Henschel **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:34:11 +0200 From: Holger Veit Subject: Re: XFreeOS2 list gone? Dave Yeo wrote: >On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:23:11 +0100, John Poltorak wrote: > > > >>I just wrote to the list at xfreeos2 at xfreeos2.dyndns.org. >> >>My msg is viewable in the list archives here:- >> >>http://ct-mail.citytraffic.de/pipermail/xfreeos2/2004-October/date.html >> >>but nothing has come back to me. >> >> > >Yes the same as happened with me, my test message did eventually show up in the archives. Perhaps Holger is busy. >Dave > > If you are subscribed with a (still) valid address to xfreeos2, there should be a posting from there within the next few hours (depending on the speed of the Internet). The list moved to a different location (as citytraffic.de is no longer fully operable), but you should still reach the list and the archives via the alias xfreeos2.dyndns.org. Same problem existed for the emx list also hosted on that server. So note the current addresses: http://xfreeos2.dyndns.org/pipermail/xfreeos http://xfreeos2.dyndns.org/pipermail/emx for the archives, and http://xfreeos2.dyndns.org/mailman/listinfo/xfreeos2 http://xfreeos2.dyndns.org/mailman/listinfo/emx for the listinfo page (subscription, unsubscription, etc.) To post messages, provided you are subscribed - spam protection is still active - send mails to xfreeos2 at xfreeos2.dyndns.org and emx at xfreeos2.dyndns.org, resp. Finally, I do now consider the old list "posix2" as dead, as there is an adequate replacement by this list here. And finally+1: Yes, I am alive and healthy - but rather busy, unfortunately. Regards/2 to all Holger Veit **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:36:35 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: NCURSES 5.4 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:42:45AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, John Poltorak wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 08:01:05AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, John Poltorak wrote: > > > There's something amiss with the configure script. > > > > The configure script was rebuilt from your configure.in using your patched > > version of v2.13 (20020210) AFAICT. > > > > Is there anything in particular I should look out for? > > It doesn't seem to have found the termio/termios headers and set the > proper #define's. Looking at the archive again, I see that the supplied configure script was created using:- Autoconf 2.52.20030208 Is this what I should be using instead of 2.13.20020210 ? If so, how do I build that version? I don't suppose v2.59 will work, will it? > -- > Thomas E. Dickey > http://invisible-island.net > ftp://invisible-island.net -- John **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:28 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: XFreeOS2 list gone? On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 04:34:11PM +0200, Holger Veit wrote: > Finally, I do now consider the old list "posix2" as dead, as there is an > adequate replacement by this list here. If it is dead, maybe you should make an official announcement on that list and suggest any other lists which subscribers may wish to move to... > And finally+1: Yes, I am alive and healthy - but rather busy, unfortunately. Good to hear from you again - thought that the dark side may have taken you away... > Regards/2 to all > Holger Veit -- John **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:05:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Dickey Subject: Re: NCURSES 5.4 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, John Poltorak wrote: > Looking at the archive again, I see that the supplied configure script was > created using:- > > Autoconf 2.52.20030208 > > > Is this what I should be using instead of 2.13.20020210 ? probably not - I started using the 2.52 version in ncurses on Linux to work around some breakage in the glibc headers, and am also using it now since the cross-compile support is a little better. Neither of those aspects were important for OS/2 (and 2.52 lacks some pieces to make it usable on OS/2 iirc). > If so, how do I build that version? There's a patch for 2.52 on my webpage. > I don't suppose v2.59 will work, will it? no - 2.59 is a different bucket of worms. I have a different patch for that, which I've looked only briefly with lynx (and having found some additional breakage introduced by the automake hackers, suspect that as usual, only trivial configure.in's will upgrade easily). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:05:57 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: NCURSES 5.4 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 11:05:19AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, John Poltorak wrote: > > > Looking at the archive again, I see that the supplied configure script was > > created using:- > > > > Autoconf 2.52.20030208 > > > > > > Is this what I should be using instead of 2.13.20020210 ? > > probably not - In which case, I'm a bit stumped. If this version of autoconf (2.13) should work, then presumably there must be something wrong with configure.in which is creating a problem... Any suggestions on how I can identify the problem? Would posting config.cache help? > -- > Thomas E. Dickey > http://invisible-island.net > ftp://invisible-island.net -- John **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:35:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Dickey Subject: Re: NCURSES 5.4 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, John Poltorak wrote: > If this version of autoconf (2.13) should work, then presumably there must > be something wrong with configure.in which is creating a problem... > > Any suggestions on how I can identify the problem? Would posting > config.cache help? config.log would be more useful. config.cache only shows the final result, while config.log shows error messages along the way. I don't have my ECS up at the moment (the machine died, I moved the disk to a machine that I'm still configuring, though I did check that I could boot ECS). But I can offer advice. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:41:22 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: NCURSES 5.4 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 02:35:34PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, John Poltorak wrote: > > > If this version of autoconf (2.13) should work, then presumably there must > > be something wrong with configure.in which is creating a problem... > > > > Any suggestions on how I can identify the problem? Would posting > > config.cache help? > > config.log would be more useful. config.cache only shows the final > result, while config.log shows error messages along the way. > > I don't have my ECS up at the moment (the machine died, I moved the disk > to a machine that I'm still configuring, though I did check that I could > boot ECS). But I can offer advice. OK thanks. I'll send the file directly rather than cluttering up the list. > -- > Thomas E. Dickey > http://invisible-island.net > ftp://invisible-island.net -- John **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:36:06 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: Warpzilla build progress On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:16:34AM -0400, Henry Sobotka wrote: > John Poltorak wrote: > > > > `G:/ux2bs/workdir/mozilla/security/nss/cmd/shlibsign/mangle' > > 1 +++ ?PARSE ARG dist objdir os_target therest?dist = > > forwardtoback(dist); > > make.exe[4]: *** [G:/ux2bs/workdir/mozilla/obj/dist/lib/softokn3.chk] > > Error 255 > > This error appears to be coming from an attempt to run > mozilla/security/nss/cmd/shlibsign/sign.cmd which is a REXX script for > OS/2. "dist" is on the second line so my guess is you have an > NL-terminated version of the file from the tarball (CVS does the > conversion for the client), which may be making REXX barf. Try running > sign.cmd through a NL->CRLF utility, or open and resave in a text editor > that does the conversion. You're a genius Henry! > h~ -- John **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:41:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steve Wendt" Subject: Re: CLAM AntiVirus software On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:07:16 +0100, John Poltorak wrote: >In the long term I would love to set up clamav-milter for sendmail, having >just set up my first milter - albeit on Linux. Milters are brilliant. I have to agree, although some of them seem pretty buggy (for SpamAssassin, the third milter I tried seems to mostly work - the first two were awful). The clamav-milter works very well, though. ----------- "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato (427-347 B.C.) **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:59:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steve Wendt" Subject: Re: (OT?) XFree86 mailing list status On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:32:27 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote: >Looking at your "to" field, if I were you, I would restrict it to just >os2-unix at mail.warpix.org instead of > >os2-unix at mail.warpix.org That's the way addresses are supposed to be. ;) The part outside the brackets (<>) is just a description, just like "Kris Steenhaut". ----------- "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato (427-347 B.C.) **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:26:18 +0200 From: Kris Steenhaut Subject: Re: (OT?) XFree86 mailing list status Steve Wendt schreef: >>os2-unix at mail.warpix.org >> >> > >That's the way addresses are supposed to be. ;) >The part outside the brackets (<>) is just a description, just like "Kris Steenhaut". > > _Problem_: Why it is David's messages don't pass some ISP? _Fact_: Most if not all ISP have installed spam filters and other deamons without knowledge and without consent (as mine did) of their customers. _IMHO_: If in the "description" part is a copycat text of the email address (the at character included), I'm sure some deamons will interpret that as spam/virus/whatever, and will derive the message into the Nirwana (the High one or maybe just the standard one). And our messages don't go straight from us to Yahoo, but must pass at least 2 ISP, and depending on circumstances there can be detours along 3, 4, 5.... ISP as well. But I'm sure you are aware about that. Anyway, imho it's worth the pain to check it out. To delete a double can't be that hard, can it? -- Groeten uit Gent, Kris **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:54:33 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Eureka! I finally got Mozilla to build overnight! It took around nine hours in total but I did end up with a mozilla.exe... unfortunately it just hangs after the yellow mozilla splash box comes up. The build log is quite big - 28,000 lines. Is there anything I should look out for which shows problems in the build? -- John **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:28:46 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Posix/2 sys\select.h & NBBY In the Posix/2 header sys\select.h, there is is a reference to NBBY. Any ideas on where this is or should be defined? -- John **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:28:35 +0100 From: Stefan.Neis at t-online.de Subject: Re: Posix/2 sys\select.h & NBBY Hi, > In the Posix/2 header sys\select.h, there is is a reference to NBBY. > > Any ideas on where this is or should be defined? Using 'grep NBBY sys\*' in Posix/2's include directory, I found (among a couple of uses of NBBY): include\sys\types.h:#define NBBY 8 /* number of bits per byte; CHAR_BIT */ HTH, Stefan **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:46:10 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: Posix/2 sys\select.h & NBBY On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 02:28:35PM +0100, Stefan.Neis at t-online.de wrote: > Hi, > > > In the Posix/2 header sys\select.h, there is is a reference to NBBY. > > > > Any ideas on where this is or should be defined? > > Using 'grep NBBY sys\*' in Posix/2's include directory, I found (among > a couple of uses of NBBY): > > include\sys\types.h:#define NBBY 8 /* number of bits per byte; CHAR_BIT */ It looks like the NCURSES 5.4 build was failing because NBBY was not resolved, but I see an include for in curses.priv.h so am a bit confused... > HTH, > Stefan -- John **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:00:46 -0400 From: Henry Sobotka Subject: Re: Eureka! John Poltorak wrote: > > It took around nine hours in total but I did end up with a mozilla.exe... > unfortunately it just hangs after the yellow mozilla splash box comes up. Launching it with "mozilla > mozlog 2>&1" might provide a clue. Make sure you don't have any other instances of moz running or envars such as MOZILLA_HOME pointing elsewhere. And if your moz is the end-product of a stop/start build, wiping out your objdir and rebuilding from scratch so that you get an uninterrupted build from start to finish should fix whatever's wrong. h~ **= Email 17 ==========================** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:02:58 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: Subversion On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:59:15PM +1000, Brian Havard wrote: > On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:03:25 +0100, John Poltorak wrote: > > >I remember someone asking about Subversion a few months ago and have just > >noticed an OS/2 port here:- > > > >http://silk.apana.org.au/pub/svn/svn-os2-1.1-20041009.zip > > > > > >It's described as 'alpha' quality so I guess some feedback on performance > >would be welcomed... > > Yes, some feedback would be nice. Although it works fine for me I haven't > done much more than a few checkouts/updates/diff/log/info/status. Use of > the local file system repository is only minimally tested. Doing a little reading around the place I've seen something about Subversion using WebDAV as its network protocol. Does that mean I can use Apache as the server for a version control system? I assume I would need to install mod_dav... Is that available on OS/? Apologies for being hazy on this - I'm just trying to get to grips with WebDAV. > -- > ______________________________________________________________________________ > | Brian Havard | "He is not the messiah! | > | brianh at kheldar.apana.org.au | He's a very naughty boy!" - Life of Brian | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- John **= Email 18 ==========================** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:09:27 +0100 From: Stefan.Neis at t-online.de Subject: Re: Posix/2 sys\select.h & NBBY Hi, > > include\sys\types.h:#define NBBY 8 /* number of bits per byte; CHAR_BIT */ > > It looks like the NCURSES 5.4 build was failing because NBBY was not > resolved, but I see an include for in curses.priv.h so am a > bit confused... Maybe bad ordering of includes? should be included prior to any other . Regards, Stefan **= Email 19 ==========================** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:02:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Dickey Subject: Re: Posix/2 sys\select.h & NBBY On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 Stefan.Neis at t-online.de wrote: > Hi, > > > In the Posix/2 header sys\select.h, there is is a reference to NBBY. > > > > Any ideas on where this is or should be defined? > > Using 'grep NBBY sys\*' in Posix/2's include directory, I found (among > a couple of uses of NBBY): > > include\sys\types.h:#define NBBY 8 /* number of bits per byte; CHAR_BIT */ > > HTH, maybe not. The test that's failing does include sys/types.h - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- configure:6875: checking if sys/time.h works with sys/select.h configure:6896: gcc -c -Zmt -D__ST_MT_ERRNO__ -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE -DNDEBUG conftest.c 1>&5 In file included from configure:6888: t:\ux2bs\posix2\include\sys/select.h:26: `NBBY' undeclared here (not in a function) t:\ux2bs\posix2\include\sys/select.h:26: `NBBY' undeclared here (not in a function) t:\ux2bs\posix2\include\sys/select.h:26: size of array `fds_bits' has non-integer type configure: failed program was: #line 6881 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" #include #ifdef HAVE_SYS_TIME_H #include #endif #ifdef HAVE_SYS_SELECT_H #include #endif int main() { ; return 0; } ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So perhaps a #define is needed to make it see the NBBY -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net **= Email 20 ==========================** Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:41:44 +0200 From: Robert Henschel Subject: Re: Subversion John Poltorak wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:59:15PM +1000, Brian Havard wrote: > >>On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:03:25 +0100, John Poltorak wrote: >> >> >>>I remember someone asking about Subversion a few months ago and have just >>>noticed an OS/2 port here:- >>> >>>http://silk.apana.org.au/pub/svn/svn-os2-1.1-20041009.zip >>> >>> >>>It's described as 'alpha' quality so I guess some feedback on performance >>>would be welcomed... >> >>Yes, some feedback would be nice. Although it works fine for me I haven't >>done much more than a few checkouts/updates/diff/log/info/status. Use of >>the local file system repository is only minimally tested. > > > Doing a little reading around the place I've seen something about > Subversion using WebDAV as its network protocol. Does that mean I can use > Apache as the server for a version control system? I assume I would need to > install mod_dav... Is that available on OS/? Not sure what subversion uses, but WebDAV support does work well with Apache on OS/2. (the DAV module is included) Regards, Robert -- Robert Henschel -- OS/2 User Group Dresden http://warp5.dyndns.org:8080/OS2Dresden