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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 05:00:10 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600
Subject: [UnixOS2_Archive] No. 65

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Thursday 06 March 2003
 Number  65
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  SpamAssassin : Lewis G Rosenthal <lgrosenthal at 2rosenthals.com>
2  Re:  NFS : email at eracc.hypermart.net (ERACC Lists)
3  Re:  NFS : Neil Waldhauer" <neil at blondeguy.com>
4  Re:  exec family : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
5  Re:  SpamAssassin : Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>
6  Re:  exec family : Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
7  Re:  SpamAssassin : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
8   NFS : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
9  Re:  NFS : Stefan Neis <neis at cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>
10  Re:  perl question : Henry Sobotka <sobotka at axess.com>
11  Re:  NFS : Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
12   perl question : Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
13  Re:  FHS compilant OpenSSH package available : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
14   FHS compilant OpenSSH package available : Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>
15  Re:  FHS compilant OpenSSH package available : Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 07 Mar 2003 07:54:01 -0500
From:  Lewis G Rosenthal <lgrosenthal at 2rosenthals.com>
Subject:  Re:  SpamAssassin

Thanks Adrian & John!

John Poltorak wrote:

>On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:58:26AM +0100, Adrian Gschwend wrote:
>  
>
>>On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:27:40 -0500, Lewis G Rosenthal wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Yuri, I've been working to try to get SA running with assassind. 
>>>However, I'm interested in looking at bogofilter. Could you give a 
>>>little more detail as to how the porting went? Better yet, could you 
>>>send me the binaries? :-)
>>>      
>>>
>>Yuri's binary is available at netlabs: 
>>
>>ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/pub/misc/bogofilter.zip
>>    
>>
>
>The origianl is also available here:-
>
>http://os2power.dnsalias.com/yuri/software/bogofilter1.zip
> 
>  
>
>>probably contains source as well (can't remember :-)
>>    
>>
>
>There is no source or even patches included. I don't know if this implies 
>it builds straight out of the box - must give this a try sometime...
> 
>  
>
>>cu
>>
>>Adrian
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>Adrian Gschwend
>> at  netlabs.org
>>
>>ktk [a t] netlabs.org
>>-------
>>Free Software for OS/2 and eCS
>>http://www.netlabs.org
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>

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**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 07 Mar 2003 08:13:53 -0600
From:  email at eracc.hypermart.net (ERACC Lists)
Subject:  Re:  NFS

 In: <20030307120831.O83 at manninghammills.org>
 On: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:08:31 +0000
 Screaming:  NFS
 John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org> did rant:

+Does a standard Linux distro such as Red Hat include NFS? If not where 
+would get it from?

Every distro I have tried (Hed Rat, OpenLinux, Knoppix and Mandrake)
has NFS support for both daemon and client.

+Are there any problems mounting a Linux filesystem on OS/2 over the 
+Internet?

I would guess there would be security problems with that as NFS
traffic is not encrypted nor is NFS especially secure. Perhaps going
through a VPN tunnel it would work, I see no reason it would not.

Gene <gene at eracc.hypermart.net>
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**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 7 Mar 2003 10:04:29 -0800
From:  "Neil Waldhauer" <neil at blondeguy.com>
Subject:  Re:  NFS

on Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:08:31 +0000, John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org> wrote:

> Does a standard Linux distro such as Red Hat include NFS? If not where 
> would get it from?
> 
> Are there any problems mounting a Linux filesystem on OS/2 over the 
> Internet?

I tried to do this last week with Red Hat v8, and I had no joy. All of the OS/2
machines could share and use NFS amongst each other, but Red Hat could not
share or use NFS. (Didn't try Red Hat to localhost)

I think there is some problem with versions of RPC?

> 
> -- 
> John

Neil Waldhauer  neil at blondeguy.com  www.blondeguy.com
Expert consulting for OS/2 and eComStation

**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 7 Mar 2003 10:25:13 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  exec family

On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 06:24:48PM +0000, Dave Saville wrote:

> I know that execl* is for fixed number of args, execv* for variable
> and *e passes an environment. But what is the difference between
> execv & execp - the parameter list are the same?

I guess that's a typo and you mean execv & execvp...

According to my Kelley/Pohl 'Book on C':-

Members of the family with 'p' in their name use the path specified in the 
environment to determine which directories to search for the program. 



Presumably execv uses either the current directory or a fully qualified 
pathname...

 
> TIA
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> 
> Dave Saville



-- 
John




**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 07 Mar 2003 10:58:26 +0100 (MES)
From:  "Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>
Subject:  Re:  SpamAssassin

On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:27:40 -0500, Lewis G Rosenthal wrote:

>Yuri, I've been working to try to get SA running with assassind. 
>However, I'm interested in looking at bogofilter. Could you give a 
>little more detail as to how the porting went? Better yet, could you 
>send me the binaries? :-)

Yuri's binary is available at netlabs: 

ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/pub/misc/bogofilter.zip

probably contains source as well (can't remember :-)

cu

Adrian


-- 
Adrian Gschwend
 at  netlabs.org

ktk [a t] netlabs.org
-------
Free Software for OS/2 and eCS
http://www.netlabs.org


**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:43:39 +0000 (GMT)
From:  "Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
Subject:  Re:  exec family

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 10:25:13 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 06:24:48PM +0000, Dave Saville wrote:
>
>> I know that execl* is for fixed number of args, execv* for variable
>> and *e passes an environment. But what is the difference between
>> execv & execp - the parameter list are the same?
>
>I guess that's a typo and you mean execv & execvp...
>
>According to my Kelley/Pohl 'Book on C':-
>
>Members of the family with 'p' in their name use the path specified in the 
>environment to determine which directories to search for the program. 
>
>
>
>Presumably execv uses either the current directory or a fully qualified 
>pathname...

Thanks John - My K & R does not mention them at all :-)

-- 
Regards

Dave Saville


**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:00:11 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  SpamAssassin

On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:58:26AM +0100, Adrian Gschwend wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:27:40 -0500, Lewis G Rosenthal wrote:
> 
> >Yuri, I've been working to try to get SA running with assassind. 
> >However, I'm interested in looking at bogofilter. Could you give a 
> >little more detail as to how the porting went? Better yet, could you 
> >send me the binaries? :-)
> 
> Yuri's binary is available at netlabs: 
> 
> ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/pub/misc/bogofilter.zip

The origianl is also available here:-

http://os2power.dnsalias.com/yuri/software/bogofilter1.zip
 
> probably contains source as well (can't remember :-)

There is no source or even patches included. I don't know if this implies 
it builds straight out of the box - must give this a try sometime...
 
> cu
> 
> Adrian
> 
> 
> -- 
> Adrian Gschwend
>  at  netlabs.org
> 
> ktk [a t] netlabs.org
> -------
> Free Software for OS/2 and eCS
> http://www.netlabs.org


-- 
John



**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:08:31 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   NFS

Does a standard Linux distro such as Red Hat include NFS? If not where 
would get it from?

Are there any problems mounting a Linux filesystem on OS/2 over the 
Internet?

-- 
John



**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 7 Mar 2003 15:27:30 +0100 (CET)
From:  Stefan Neis <neis at cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>
Subject:  Re:  NFS

	Hi,

> Does a standard Linux distro such as Red Hat include NFS?

Sure.
 
> Are there any problems mounting a Linux filesystem on OS/2 over the 
> Internet?

You don't want to use NFS over the Internet. ;-)
Seriously speaking, I suppose it might be intended to work over the
Internet, but in view of the minimal security that it provides, it
normally is used in LANs exclusively, so if there's a problem with
the internet connectivity that likely goes unnoticed for a long time.
So I doubt that it will work in practice...

	Regards,
		Stefan


**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 07 Mar 2003 16:20:48 -0500
From:  Henry Sobotka <sobotka at axess.com>
Subject:  Re:  perl question

Dave Saville wrote:
> 
> It certainly does not try and run /usr/local/bin/perl as it does not
> exist. Should it be processing the shebang line at all for options?

"...the #! line is always examined for switches as the line is being
parsed" - Programming Perl, p. 329. In this case it doesn't have to try
to run /usr/local/bin/perl because perl is already running; though
obviously the script would fail if invoked in a shell that relied on the
line to call the interpreter.

Incidentally, here the "Too late" croak (from perl.c) goes away and a
taint warning is displayed when a script with -T in the shebang line is
invoked directly at a sh prompt, e.g.:

[borges|c:/temp]testfoo tfile
Insecure dependency in open while running with -T switch at ./testfoo
line 3.

[borges|c:/temp]perl testfoo tfile
Too late for "-T" option at testfoo line 1.

h~

**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 07 Mar 2003 16:44:47 +0100 (CET)
From:  "Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Subject:  Re:  NFS

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:08:31 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>Does a standard Linux distro such as Red Hat include NFS? If not where 
>would get it from?
>
>Are there any problems mounting a Linux filesystem on OS/2 over the 
>Internet?

In addition to what others replied, the OS/2 NFS stuff has some
limitations, i.e. it won't work with hard disks over a certain size and
with directories with more than a certain number of files in them.

Christian Hennecke


**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:54:51 +0000 (GMT)
From:  "Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
Subject:   perl question

I am trying to play with some code and it has to work on *nix as well
as OS/2.

The first line of the script is the usual #!/usr/local/bin/perl.

What I have discovered is that if the shebang line is 

#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w -T

and I invoke it with

perl script.pl

Then *it processes the shebang line* and whinges about it being too
late for -T

It certainly does not try and run /usr/local/bin/perl as it does not
exist. Should it be processing the shebang line at all for options?


-- 
Regards

Dave Saville


**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:57:25 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  FHS compilant OpenSSH package available

On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:02:21PM +0100, Adrian Gschwend wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I finaly made a correct version of OpenSSH regarding FHS compilance.
> All files are where they belong to on unix systems (I hope at least),
> including man-pages. You can get the file at 
> 
> ftp://ftp.os2ports.com/incoming/openssh-3.5p1.3-FHS.zip
> 
> I recommend you to read the INF-File which is shipped with it (in the
> /usr/doc/openssh... directory). It describes how to generate the keys.
> According to the documentation it does take care of %UNIXROOT% so you
> can give an alternate ETC as well like this.
> 
> I successfuly use this port with the UXOS2BS done by John's script. I
> simply adjusted the HOME variable to my home and added a USER variable
> as well for my default user.
> 
> Note that I didn't port it, I just reassembled the zip-file done by
> nickk. The best version would certainly be to be able to compile the
> source out of the box but I don't know if this is easy possible (I
> doubt it :)

Does it come with any patches?  If so, it should be easy enough to 
build... 

> cu
> 
> Adrian
> 
> 
> -- 
> Adrian Gschwend
>  at  netlabs.org
> 
> ktk [a t] netlabs.org
> -------
> Free Software for OS/2 and eCS
> http://www.netlabs.org


-- 
John
 


**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:02:21 +0100 (MES)
From:  "Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>
Subject:   FHS compilant OpenSSH package available

Hi all,

I finaly made a correct version of OpenSSH regarding FHS compilance.
All files are where they belong to on unix systems (I hope at least),
including man-pages. You can get the file at 

ftp://ftp.os2ports.com/incoming/openssh-3.5p1.3-FHS.zip

I recommend you to read the INF-File which is shipped with it (in the
/usr/doc/openssh... directory). It describes how to generate the keys.
According to the documentation it does take care of %UNIXROOT% so you
can give an alternate ETC as well like this.

I successfuly use this port with the UXOS2BS done by John's script. I
simply adjusted the HOME variable to my home and added a USER variable
as well for my default user.

Note that I didn't port it, I just reassembled the zip-file done by
nickk. The best version would certainly be to be able to compile the
source out of the box but I don't know if this is easy possible (I
doubt it :)

Note that it doesn't include Security/2 done by nickk, you will need
that if you want to run sshd on OS/2.

OpenSSH for OS/2 homepage: http://en.ecomstation.ru/openssh/

The cool thing about this package is that you can unzip it into an
existing unixos2 tree and at least the SSH-Client should work more or
less out of the box without complaining about wrong paths and such
stuff.

cu

Adrian


-- 
Adrian Gschwend
 at  netlabs.org

ktk [a t] netlabs.org
-------
Free Software for OS/2 and eCS
http://www.netlabs.org


**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 07 Mar 2003 19:39:51 +0100 (MES)
From:  "Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>
Subject:  Re:  FHS compilant OpenSSH package available

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:57:25 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>Does it come with any patches?  If so, it should be easy enough to 
>build... 

the binary does not contain any source files or patches.

cu

Adrian


-- 
Adrian Gschwend
 at  netlabs.org

ktk [a t] netlabs.org
-------
Free Software for OS/2 and eCS
http://www.netlabs.org