From: UnixOS2 Archive
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 04:53:01 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600
Subject: [UnixOS2_Archive] No. 36

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Wednesday 05 February 2003
 Number  36
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Perl LWP Question : Henry Sobotka <sobotka at axess.com>
2  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix : Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
3  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix : Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
4  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix : email at eracc.hypermart.net (ERACC Lists)
5  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix : Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
6   SETUP.CMD in Unix : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
7  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix : Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
8  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
9  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
10  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix : Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
11  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix : Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
12  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
13   openssh : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
14  Re:  Perl LWP Question : Hakan" <agents at meddatainc.com>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 06 Feb 2003 00:50:39 -0500
From:  Henry Sobotka <sobotka at axess.com>
Subject:  Re:  Perl LWP Question

If you don't have LWP/UserAgent.PM in your perl/lib tree, presumably
that's because you haven't installed it. You can get it from
http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/LWP/. After downloading and
unpacking, have a look at Makefile.PL for anything that might need
adjusting, then run "perl Makefile.PL" to generate makefiles, followed
by "make", "make test" and "make install".

Most Perl add-on modules check for prerequisites, so you may have to go
through the above routine with them first.

h~

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Date:  Thu, 06 Feb 2003 06:06:49 -0600 (CST)
From:  "Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
Subject:  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:32:29 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>What is the Unix equivalent of OS/2's SETUP.CMD for setting IP addresses 
>for the local host?

route and ifconfig are both available to su on my suse7.3 setup

-- Maynard



**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 06 Feb 2003 07:33:18 -0600 (CST)
From:  "Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
Subject:  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:03:20 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>I've just managed to get an IP address assigned to the NIC on my AIX 
>system by adding an entry to hosts! 

and you know that it is assigned to the NIC by examing ....

ifconfig .... or something else?

What happens when you have more than one line in HOSTS for the same
internal subnet? How do you suppose that the system knows which is
yours?

AIX does have 'ifconfig' doesn't it?

-- Maynard



**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:38:57 -0600
From:  email at eracc.hypermart.net (ERACC Lists)
Subject:  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix

 In: <20030206141042.EZGO4022.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com at pooh>
 On: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:10:13 +0000 (GMT)
 Screaming: Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix
 "Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com> did rant:

+On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 07:33:18 -0600 (CST), Maynard wrote:

+>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:03:20 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
+>
+>>I've just managed to get an IP address assigned to the NIC on my AIX 
+>>system by adding an entry to hosts! 

+And of course AIX has that completely different gui setter up thingy -
+smitt? No other *nix has anything like it.

Well, actually there is 'scoadmin' on OpenServer and Unixware and I
believe 'linuxconf' is still floating around. Of course there is
'webmin' as well. I believe these are equivalent to 'smit'. I've used
all of the above.

Gene <gene at eracc.hypermart.net>
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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:02:56 -0600 (CST)
From:  "Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
Subject:  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix

Hi Dave,

>>What happens when you have more than one line in HOSTS for the same
>>internal subnet? How do you suppose that the system knows which is
>>yours?
>
>More than one line? if you mean alias names then its all on the same
>line.

Sure, multiple alias for single IP, but the file is a mini-DNS for the
listing of multiple IPs. 

My hosts file has individual line entries for:
each IP on the domestic segment (no other authoritative DNS)
a few DNS servers for use when the primaries aren't reachable
and before I started running local Bind I had hosts entries for
frequently accessed sites (pop3, dns) and
127.0.0.1 assignments for banned sites

-- Maynard





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Date:  Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:32:29 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   SETUP.CMD in Unix

What is the Unix equivalent of OS/2's SETUP.CMD for setting IP addresses 
for the local host?

Maybe it varies between different flavours of Unix, but I'm trying to set 
it up on AIX v1.3.0...

Does NETSTAT use the same parameters on different versions of Unix?

-- 
John


**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 06 Feb 2003 12:12:44 +0000 (GMT)
From:  "Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
Subject:  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:32:29 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>What is the Unix equivalent of OS/2's SETUP.CMD for setting IP addresses 
>for the local host?
>
>Maybe it varies between different flavours of Unix, but I'm trying to set 
>it up on AIX v1.3.0...
>

On my Solaris system the ip address of the host is in hosts :-) and
the host name lives in hostname.le0 - the .le0 is the interface.
Internally startup will do ifconfig in the /etc/rc2.d files. 


>Does NETSTAT use the same parameters on different versions of Unix?

Solaris:

NAME
     netstat - show network status

SYNOPSIS
     netstat  [ -anv ]

     netstat  [-g  | -m  | -p  | -s  | -f address_family ]  [  -n ] 
[ -P protocol ]

     netstat  [ -i ]  [ -I interface ]   [ interval ]

     netstat -r  [ -anv ]

     netstat -M  [ -ns ]

     netstat -D  [ -I interface ]


HTH

-- 
Regards

Dave Saville


**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:24:11 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 12:12:44PM +0000, Dave Saville wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:32:29 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> >Does NETSTAT use the same parameters on different versions of Unix?
> 
> Solaris:
> 
> NAME
>      netstat - show network status
> 
> SYNOPSIS
>      netstat  [ -anv ]
> 
>      netstat  [-g  | -m  | -p  | -s  | -f address_family ]  [  -n ] 
> [ -P protocol ]
> 
>      netstat  [ -i ]  [ -I interface ]   [ interval ]
> 
>      netstat -r  [ -anv ]
> 
>      netstat -M  [ -ns ]
> 
>      netstat -D  [ -I interface ]


Hmm... I wouldn't mind a man page for OS/2's netstat. I thought it was 
supposed to be BSD based. Maybe I could borrow one from somewhere else and 
modify it...

> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> 
> Dave Saville
> 


-- 
John



**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:03:20 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 06:06:49AM -0600, Maynard wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:32:29 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> >What is the Unix equivalent of OS/2's SETUP.CMD for setting IP addresses 
> >for the local host?
> 
> route and ifconfig are both available to su on my suse7.3 setup

I've just managed to get an IP address assigned to the NIC on my AIX 
system by adding an entry to hosts! 

It didn't seem complicated enough somehow :-)...

 
> -- Maynard
> 
> 


-- 
John



**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:10:13 +0000 (GMT)
From:  "Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
Subject:  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix

On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 07:33:18 -0600 (CST), Maynard wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:03:20 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
>
>>I've just managed to get an IP address assigned to the NIC on my AIX 
>>system by adding an entry to hosts! 

And of course AIX has that completely different gui setter up thingy
- smitt? No other *nix has anything like it.

-- 
Regards

Dave Saville


**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:14:13 +0000 (GMT)
From:  "Dave Saville" <dave.saville at ntlworld.com>
Subject:  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix

On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 07:33:18 -0600 (CST), Maynard wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:03:20 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
>
>>I've just managed to get an IP address assigned to the NIC on my AIX 
>>system by adding an entry to hosts! 

Yes, that's what happens on Solaris - just get hosts and the hostname
right and the clever startup scripts do the rest.

>
>and you know that it is assigned to the NIC by examing ....
>
>ifconfig .... or something else?
>
>What happens when you have more than one line in HOSTS for the same
>internal subnet? How do you suppose that the system knows which is
>yours?

More than one line? if you mean alias names then its all on the same
line.

192.168.0.99 fred fred.somewhere.com loghost

For different interface cards Solaris seems to use a file called
hostname.interface contianing one line with the name.

-- 
Regards

Dave Saville


**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:28:38 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  SETUP.CMD in Unix

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 02:10:13PM +0000, Dave Saville wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 07:33:18 -0600 (CST), Maynard wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:03:20 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> >
> >>I've just managed to get an IP address assigned to the NIC on my AIX 
> >>system by adding an entry to hosts! 
> 
> And of course AIX has that completely different gui setter up thingy
> - smitt? No other *nix has anything like it.

I've used smit in the past and it's pretty useful. It would be nice to 
have something like that on OS/2.

Unfortunately my version of AIX predates smit.

Wonder if there is some sort of early incarnation of it under a different 
name. It would make life much easier.
 
> -- 
> Regards
> 
> Dave Saville
> 


-- 
John



**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:07:30 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   openssh


There's a new release of openssh at Hobbes.

-- 
John



**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:31:49 -0500 (EST)
From:  "Hakan" <agents at meddatainc.com>
Subject:  Re:  Perl LWP Question

Thanks for the pointer.  It seems those routines are in the file
libwww-perl.  Perusing the corresponding readme file reveals that five
other modules are required, none of which seems to be part of the
package I built.  I wonder if each of these packages in turn require
five other packages etc....

I feel like a cat chasing my own tail.

On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 00:50:39 -0500, Henry Sobotka wrote:

>If you don't have LWP/UserAgent.PM in your perl/lib tree, presumably
>that's because you haven't installed it. You can get it from
>http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/LWP/. After downloading and
>unpacking, have a look at Makefile.PL for anything that might need
>adjusting, then run "perl Makefile.PL" to generate makefiles, followed
>by "make", "make test" and "make install".
>
>Most Perl add-on modules check for prerequisites, so you may have to go
>through the above routine with them first.
>
>h~
>
>