From: UnixOS2 Archive
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 04:48:06 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600
Subject: [UnixOS2_Archive] No. 9

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Thursday 09 January 2003
 Number  9
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Mounting an CDROM ISO image as a filesystem : nickk" <devnull at ecomstation.ru>
2   Problem with GNAT 3.15 INF documentation : Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
3  Re:  WGET verbosity level : Kenn Yuill" <kenn.yuill at sympatico.ca>
4  Re:  PASSWD handling : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
5   pwd.h : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
6  Re:  PASSWD handling : Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>
7   OS/2 in the News at /. .. again! : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
8   RAMFS bugs : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
9  Re:  PASSWD handling : Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>
10   WGET verbosity level : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
11  Re:  Mounting an CDROM ISO image as a filesystem : email at eracc.hypermart.net (ERACC Lists)
12   News servers : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
13  Re:  PASSWD handling : nickk" <devnull at ecomstation.ru>
14  Re:  OS/2 in the News at /. .. again! : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
15  Re:  OS/2 in the News at /. .. again! : Steve Wendt <stevew at shocking.com>
16   New GZIP : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
17  Re:  News servers : Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
18  Re:  PASSWD handling : Nicholas Sheppard <nps at zeta.org.au>
19  Re:  OS/2 in the News at /. .. again! : Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>
20   Texinfo v4.3 : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
21   Fetchmail : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
22   UnixOS2 "enhancements" : Jeff Robinson <jeffnik at anecho.mb.ca>
23  Re:  UnixOS2 "enhancements" : Jeff Robinson <jeffnik at anecho.mb.ca>
24  Re:  Problem with GNAT 3.15 INF documentation : Illya Vaes <illya at vaeshiep.demon.nl>
25  Re:  Mounting an CDROM ISO image as a filesystem : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:20:09 +0300 (MSK)
From:  "nickk" <devnull at ecomstation.ru>
Subject:  Re:  Mounting an CDROM ISO image as a filesystem

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:31:11 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>> >How do I mount a CDROM ISO image so that I can see it as a file system 
>> >under a drive letter?
>> 
>> You can either use the plug-in for the shareware NetDrive package or
>
>I tried installing that earlier and couldn't get it working.
>
>> Chris Wohlgemuth's free ISOFS package. The latter is available at
>> http://www.os2world.com/cdwriting.
>
>I've tried ISOFS in the past but never managed to get it to mount ISO 
>images of Slackware or any other images. I know the Slackware image was 
>OK as I used it to burn a CD successfully.
>
>I just tried the most recent version and ended with a trap in DOSCALL1 on 
>boot up, so I guess I can't use this package either.

The ISOFS supports only images with joliet filenames afair




**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 04:16:42 +0100 (CET)
From:  "Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Subject:   Problem with GNAT 3.15 INF documentation

I am currently trying to put together the documentation for GNAT 3.15
as INF files. The thing is that compiling gnat_ug_unx fails with three
"token bigger than expected" messages. Does anyone know what ipfc is
trying to tell me and how I can work around that?

Christian Hennecke


**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 06:41:03 -0500
From:  "Kenn Yuill" <kenn.yuill at sympatico.ca>
Subject:  Re:  WGET verbosity level

** Reply to John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org> on Fri, 10 Jan 2003
11:03:05 +0000 **

 Can anyone tell me what sort of msgs I am likely to see using -nv?

  Is it possible that they are very short, subliminal one?

-- 
Ciao,
       Kenn
Have a safe, peaceful & prosperous 2003!
 __________________________________________________________
  Always act as if life is a joyous journey.         
    Kenn Yuill      Polarbar Team - Tester & Eternal Newbie
 __________________________________________________________

	 -  A Thought for Today  -   10 Jan 2003

You're not being original if all your peers agree with what you're doing.
  - Henry J. Heimlich

**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:27:30 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  PASSWD handling

On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 08:56:24AM +0100, Adrian Gschwend wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:08:51 +1100 (EST), Nicholas Sheppard wrote:
> 
> >Is there an application for adding users to the database?
> 
> Yes at least in Security/2 there is. (user.exe)

Could we somehow integrate Security/2 into the Unix shadow-password 
package as available here:-


ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware/slackware/a/shadow-4.0.3-i386-3.tgz

This includes the standard Unix programs:-

useradd
userdel
usermod
groupadd
groupdel
groupmod
passwd
 
> cu
> 
> Adrian
> 
> 
> -- 
> Adrian Gschwend
>  at  netlabs.org
> 
> ktk [a t] netlabs.org
> -------
> Free Software for OS/2 and eCS
> http://www.netlabs.org

-- 
John 


**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:37:59 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   pwd.h

We seem to have a plethora of pwd.h files around. EMX comes with two, 
Posix/2 has its own. There a different one in nikk's latest package, and 
there are probably others around too.

Can we standardise on the one in Posix/2 if that contains everything 
necessary?

Where does this one originate anyway?

-- 
John



**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:56:24 +0100 (CET)
From:  "Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>
Subject:  Re:  PASSWD handling

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:08:51 +1100 (EST), Nicholas Sheppard wrote:

>Is there an application for adding users to the database?

Yes at least in Security/2 there is. (user.exe)

cu

Adrian


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 at  netlabs.org

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-------
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**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:35:39 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:   OS/2 in the News at /. .. again!

http://slashdot.org

Don't you just love those comments!
--
Ted Sikora
tsikora at ntplx.net



**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:03:29 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   RAMFS bugs


It seems that some of the test failures I have been experiencing whilst 
building Perl were due to the build being made on a RAMDISK using RAMFS, 
because of underlying bugs in RAMFS.

This is clearly shown whilst run a Perl command such as:- 

perl -wle "open O, '>abc' or die 12; print O 123; close O or die 13; chmod 0444, 'abc' or die 14; open OO, '>abc' and die 'open succeeded wrongly'"


and best illustrated using this simple batch file which compares the 
results of running the command on HPFS and RAMFS:-


 at echo off
set path=u:\usr\bin;%path%              <================  change to suit
set beginlibpath=u:\usr\lib;%path%      <================  change to suit
echo HPFS disk
c:
md \perltest
cd \perltest
ls -l 
perl -wle "open O, '>abc' or die 12; print O 123; close O or die 13; chmod 0444, 'abc' or die 14; open OO, '>abc' and die 'open succeeded wrongly'"
ls -al 
echo:
echo RAMFS disk
u:
md \perltest
cd \perltest
ls -l
perl -wle "open O, '>abc' or die 12; print O 123; close O or die 13; chmod 0444, 'abc' or die 14; open OO, '>abc' and die 'open succeeded wrongly'"
ls -al \perltest
 


Here are the results:-

HPFS disk
total 0
total 1
drwxrwx---        0 Jan  9 23:40 .
drwxrwxhs-        0 Aug 14  2000 ..
-r--r----a        5 Jan  9 23:40 abc

RAMFS disk
total 0
total 0
drwxrwx---        0 Jan  9 23:40 .
drwxrwx---        0 invalid date ..
-rw-rw---a        0 Jan  9 23:40 abc


If anyone else is using RAMFS, could you confirm these results?

I'm using RAMFS v1.03. 

-- 
John


**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:37:28 +0100 (CET)
From:  "Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>
Subject:  Re:  PASSWD handling

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:27:30 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>Could we somehow integrate Security/2 into the Unix shadow-password 
>package as available here:-

I guess so, nickk?

>useradd
>userdel
>usermod
>groupadd
>groupdel
>groupmod
>passwd

are those binaries or scripts?

cu

Adrian


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 at  netlabs.org

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http://www.netlabs.org


**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:03:05 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   WGET verbosity level


WGET has the options:-


  -q,  --quiet                quiet (no output).
  -v,  --verbose              be verbose (this is the default).
  -nv, --non-verbose          turn off verboseness, without being quiet.


Can anyone tell me what sort of msgs I am likely to see using -nv?

I didn't see any when I tried it.


-- 
John




**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:45:08 -0600
From:  email at eracc.hypermart.net (ERACC Lists)
Subject:  Re:  Mounting an CDROM ISO image as a filesystem

 In: <20030109131214.N83 at manninghammills.org>
 On: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:12:14 +0000
 Screaming:  Mounting an CDROM ISO image as a filesystem
 John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org> did rant:

+How do I mount a CDROM ISO image so that I can see it as a file system 
+under a drive letter?

If you just want read access try using the "F" file manager. I use it
on OS/2 to examine ISOs and extract or read files in same. It does
*not* need the ISO to become a loaded file system to open and examine
or extract from it. Granted it does have problems directly copying
files that are in ISO subdirectories but they will get copied to your
%TEMP%\$f_tmp\ directory if you try to view them so they can still be
retrieved. Perhaps a newer version of "F" will work better than the
one I have. According to the help page I am running version 4.64 of
"F".

Gene <gene at eracc.hypermart.net>
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# eCS,OS/2,UnixWare,OpenServer & Linux Business Computing Solutions #
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**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:38:09 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   News servers


Does anyone know any USENET News servers which allow public access?

The one provided by my ISP doesn't seem to be working at the moment.


-- 
John



**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:25:27 +0300 (MSK)
From:  "nickk" <devnull at ecomstation.ru>
Subject:  Re:  PASSWD handling

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:37:28 +0100 (CET), Adrian Gschwend wrote:

>>Could we somehow integrate Security/2 into the Unix shadow-password 
>>package as available here:-
>
>I guess so, nickk?

I think shat shadow has no sence in os/2 - without security/2 all files can be accessible, so we can just keep passwords in single passwd file. With 
secuirty/2 the whole userbase with passwords too are unaccessible for plain users - only through userctl API if the user have the right for this. The 
original unix concept of keeping passwords in unaccesible shadow file instead of passwd  which can be read by everyone, sucks there ;) 

As for making the unix like environment like useradd, userdel, etc - there is no actual troubles for this, but i havent enogh time now just making utils with 
the same functionality as user.exe. The userctl API for querying Security/2 is open (some programmers are already use it). Soon i open sources for 
user.exe and acls.exe after some code cleaning - so you will have the examples ;)

I am going to discuss and cintribute to the pwd.h and libpwd by now, but building this enduser unix utils i like to leave a programmer, who have some 
more free time ;)

>>useradd
>>userdel
>>usermod
>>groupadd
>>groupdel
>>groupmod
>>passwd
>
>are those binaries or scripts?
>
>cu
>
>Adrian
>
>
>-- 
>Adrian Gschwend
> at  netlabs.org
>
>ktk [a t] netlabs.org
>-------
>Free Software for OS/2 and eCS
>http://www.netlabs.org
>
>
>



**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:29:11 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 in the News at /. .. again!

On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 09:35:39AM -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:
> http://slashdot.org
> 
> Don't you just love those comments!

UnixOS/2 - a better Linux than Linux :-).

Well, maybe not yet, but....
I don't see why not.


> --
> Ted Sikora
> tsikora at ntplx.net
> 
> 


-- 
John



**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:51:22 -0800 (PST)
From:  Steve Wendt <stevew at shocking.com>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 in the News at /. .. again!

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Adrian Gschwend wrote:

> For me I have to say that I gave up /. month ago already. The signal to
> noise ratio is way too low nowadays.

osnews has been a good place to go for about a year now.



**= Email   16 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:03:47 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   New GZIP


I've seen a new GZIP recently but it only consisted of an EXE file.

I was wondering if it needed a patch for OS/2 or whether it just built 
straight out of the box...


-- 
John



**= Email   17 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:05:31 +0100 (CET)
From:  "Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Subject:  Re:  News servers

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:38:09 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>Does anyone know any USENET News servers which allow public access?
>
>The one provided by my ISP doesn't seem to be working at the moment.

Jack Troughton runs news.consultron.ca with pretty much everything
OS/2-related news group you would want and the FUD filtered from
c.o.o.m.

Christian Hennecke


**= Email   18 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:08:51 +1100 (EST)
From:  Nicholas Sheppard <nps at zeta.org.au>
Subject:  Re:  PASSWD handling

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, nickk wrote:

>   I uploaded the preview of libpwd that uses both Security/2 is
> available and traditional passwd file otherwise. The library is not
> tested, just written and compiled.

Is there an application for adding users to the database?

	Nicholas S.



**= Email   19 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:37:01 +0100 (CET)
From:  "Adrian Gschwend" <ktk at datacomm.ch>
Subject:  Re:  OS/2 in the News at /. .. again!

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:35:39 -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:

>http://slashdot.org
>
>Don't you just love those comments!

My impression of /. and OS/2:

- 98% of the titles are negative
- if it's not negative they write something that's not 100% correct
either
- OS/2 is dead (I start to wonder if they know for how long they post
that now)
- *always* the same kind of comments (there must be people that do
nothing else than posting comments on /. the whole day)

Top comments:
- is anyone still using it?
- I used it but...
- it was good but...
- WPS is still excellent but...
- I tried to install it once and it failed so it's crap

Also note that the OS/2 postings get a very high amount of comments in
general, for me it's surprising to see how many people still can't stop
talking about it even at /.

For me I have to say that I gave up /. month ago already. The signal to
noise ratio is way too low nowadays.

cu

Adrian


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 at  netlabs.org

ktk [a t] netlabs.org
-------
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http://www.netlabs.org


**= Email   20 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:22:30 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   Texinfo v4.3


Has anyone managed to build Texinfo v4.3?


-- 
John


**= Email   21 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:45:42 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   Fetchmail


Does anyone have any tips for building FETCHMAIL on OS/2?

The latest source is available here:-

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/fetchmail-6.1.0.tar.gz


The latest OS/2 version is some releases behind this.


-- 
John



**= Email   22 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:41:09 -0600
From:  Jeff Robinson <jeffnik at anecho.mb.ca>
Subject:   UnixOS2 "enhancements"

In working on getting a UnixOS2 build environment together to work on 
building Mozilla with gcc, a couple things have come to my attention.

Should we have some sort've bug-tracking mechanism like bugzilla 
(http://www.bugzilla.org/) or XTracker (http://xtracker.netlabs.org/) to 
keep track of what people are working on and issues that need to be tackled?

A second item I've been looking at is the naming convention for the 
UnixOS2 packages that are being created.  This may become less of an 
issue in the future as things tend to stabalise, but right now what some 
of these packages are 
(http://unix.os2site.com/sw/pub/unixos2/packages/index.html); at least 
version-wise.  I know this could be fixed by having a description for 
each file, but descriptions tend to require a bit more maintenance and 
so are less likely to be updated than the actual name of the archive. 
It would also be nice to know that the archive is a UnixOS2 package over 
and above just knowing it is a plain .zip; this would be more of an 
issue when archives become more widely distributed.

Would a naming convention such as:
bash-2.03-ux2.zip
instead of just plain:
bash.zip

...or if a tool doesn't necessarily have a version number, using the 
yy-mm-dd of the build instead.
(eg: fooutil-03-01-10-ux2.zip)

A naming system like this would be relatively easy to maintain as well 
as providing a reasonable amount of information about the archive's 
contents at a glance.  Both of these naming methods will also help sort 
the packages by name and then by version automatically (if the server is 
setup in that fashion).

Jeff

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**= Email   23 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 19:40:28 -0600
From:  Jeff Robinson <jeffnik at anecho.mb.ca>
Subject:  Re:  UnixOS2 "enhancements"

Adrian Gschwend wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:41:09 -0600, Jeff Robinson wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> 
>>Should we have some sort've bug-tracking mechanism like bugzilla 
>>(http://www.bugzilla.org/) or XTracker (http://xtracker.netlabs.org/) to 
>>keep track of what people are working on and issues that need to be tackled?
> 
> 
> Sounds good for me, simplest thing would be to create a new project at
> netlabs.org for that. I can do that immediately if we want.
> 

XTracker looks quite interesting... and much more accessible than 
Bugzilla.  Just off the top of my head I'm also wondering how UnixOS2 
would be handled... obviously there would be one entry for the project 
as a whole, but XTracker also has the capability of tracking 
"subprojects"?  Say we want to be able to have a section devoted to the 
packaging tool, another to gmake, etc?  I think I recall something like 
that when I filed an XWorkplace bug, but other than that I don't know a 
lot about XTracker...

> 
>>Would a naming convention such as:
>>bash-2.03-ux2.zip
>>instead of just plain:
>>bash.zip
> 
> 
> I would definitely vote for that. makes it much easier to keep the
> system up to date. Also most linux systems are doing that as well I
> guess.
> 

If there aren't any other suggestions for a naming convention (or 
reasons why we should stay with the existing naming convention), I can 
add these "guidelines" to the UnixOS2 webpages.

Jeff
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**= Email   24 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:50:18 CET
From:  Illya Vaes <illya at vaeshiep.demon.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Problem with GNAT 3.15 INF documentation

** Reply to note from "Christian Hennecke"   
<christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Fri, 10 Jan 2003 04:16:42 +0100 (CET) 
>I am currently trying to put together the documentation for GNAT 3.15 
>as INF files. The thing is that compiling gnat_ug_unx fails with three 
>"token bigger than expected" messages. Does anyone know what ipfc is 
>trying to tell me and how I can work around that? 
 
IPF Programming Guide and Reference,  
Compiler Error Messages, 
Description and Format of Error Messages, 
Warning Level 2 Messages: 
 
"206 Token is bigger than expected. 
Explanation: Maximum length of token is 255 characters. This error could be   
caused by a missing end period or quote character." 
 
Check quoting and matching end periods, I'd say...

--
Illya Vaes       (illya at vaeshiep.demon.nl)
"Do...or do not, there is no 'try'" - Yoda

**= Email   25 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:52:23 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  Mounting an CDROM ISO image as a filesystem

On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 11:45:08AM -0600, ERACC Lists wrote:
>  In: <20030109131214.N83 at manninghammills.org>
>  On: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:12:14 +0000
>  Screaming:  Mounting an CDROM ISO image as a filesystem
>  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org> did rant:
> 
> +How do I mount a CDROM ISO image so that I can see it as a file system 
> +under a drive letter?
> 
> If you just want read access try using the "F" file manager. I use it
> on OS/2 to examine ISOs and extract or read files in same. It does
> *not* need the ISO to become a loaded file system to open and examine
> or extract from it. Granted it does have problems directly copying
> files that are in ISO subdirectories but they will get copied to your
> %TEMP%\$f_tmp\ directory if you try to view them so they can still be
> retrieved. Perhaps a newer version of "F" will work better than the
> one I have. According to the help page I am running version 4.64 of
> "F".

Many thanks for this tip. It seems amazing to be able to access the an ISO 
image so easily.

I've just download v4.70 and am struggling to find my way around. 

I've been using File Commander for so long that I'm struggling to make F 
do anything at all, but I do see a list of files within the ISO image 
files I have. Now I need to find out what I can actually do.

 
> Gene <gene at eracc.hypermart.net>
> -- 
> +=========================-=>Unix & OS/2<=-=========================+
> #   Owner and C.E.O. - ERA Computer Consulting - Jackson, TN USA    #
> # eCS,OS/2,UnixWare,OpenServer & Linux Business Computing Solutions #
> #     Please visit our www pages at http://eracc.hypermart.net/     #
> +===================================================================+
>                We run IBM OS/2 v.4.00, Revision 9.036                
>   Sysinfo: 39 Processes, 150 Threads, uptime is 0d 3h 44m 34s 654ms  
> 


-- 
John