From: UnixOS2 Archive To: "UnixOS2 Archive" Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 04:44:28 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [UnixOS2_Archive] No. 409 ************************************************** Friday 27 December 2002 Number 409 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: sendmail spam : Peter Skye 2 Re: sendmail spam : Peter Skye 3 Re: sendmail spam : Peter Skye 4 Re: sendmail spam : John Poltorak 5 Re: sendmail spam : John Poltorak 6 Re: sendmail spam : John Poltorak 7 Re: os2user.exe : John Poltorak 8 Re: os2user.exe : John Poltorak 9 Re: os2user.exe : John Poltorak 10 Re: os2user.exe : Nicholas Sheppard 11 Re: os2user.exe : Nicholas Sheppard 12 IPOP3D & SYSLOG : John Poltorak 13 IPOP3D & SYSLOG : John Poltorak 14 IPOP3D & SYSLOG : John Poltorak **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 05:50:33 -0800 From: Peter Skye Subject: Re: sendmail spam John Poltorak wrote: > > > Warp 4 (I'm at Fixpak 10, sendmail.exe > > is dated 15Apr1999) headers have: > > I'm not sure of the origin of this sendmail.exe > since it isn't included in any FPs. UN0980 (MPTS) fixpak. > > Not sure how you're displaying the queue. > > sendmail -bp Thanks! After you sent the above I found it in the online documentation -- it's in the Client rather than the Server docs. - Peter **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 05:50:33 -0800 From: Peter Skye Subject: Re: sendmail spam John Poltorak wrote: > > > Warp 4 (I'm at Fixpak 10, sendmail.exe > > is dated 15Apr1999) headers have: > > I'm not sure of the origin of this sendmail.exe > since it isn't included in any FPs. UN0980 (MPTS) fixpak. > > Not sure how you're displaying the queue. > > sendmail -bp Thanks! After you sent the above I found it in the online documentation -- it's in the Client rather than the Server docs. - Peter **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 05:50:33 -0800 From: Peter Skye Subject: Re: sendmail spam John Poltorak wrote: > > > Warp 4 (I'm at Fixpak 10, sendmail.exe > > is dated 15Apr1999) headers have: > > I'm not sure of the origin of this sendmail.exe > since it isn't included in any FPs. UN0980 (MPTS) fixpak. > > Not sure how you're displaying the queue. > > sendmail -bp Thanks! After you sent the above I found it in the online documentation -- it's in the Client rather than the Server docs. - Peter **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 10:57:49 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: sendmail spam On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 11:49:49PM -0800, Peter Skye wrote: > John Poltorak wrote: > > > > IBM's latest Sendmail ... > > The headers have:- > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0 > > When you start the server it reports itself as:- > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03 > > If you try to display what is in the queue, it says:- > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.04 > > > > I don't have a copy of the sendmail which > > comes with Warp 4 handy, so can't say what > > version that reports. Does anyone know? > > Warp 4 (I'm at Fixpak 10, sendmail.exe is dated 15Apr1999) headers have: I'm not sure of the origin of this sendmail.exe since it isn't included in any FPs. > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.02/2.0 > > Starting the server displays: > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.02 > > Not sure how you're displaying the queue. I change to the > \MPTN\ETC\mqueue\ directory and run DIR. sendmail -bp > > > set [your firewall] up so outsiders > > > can't sign on to your sendmail. > > > > Blocking port 25 when you are running > > a mail server is not a good idea. > > I sometimes forget that people aren't doing things the same way _I'm_ > doing them. > > I use sendmail for outgoing mail only. For incoming I use ZoneEdit.com > to reroute several domains to accounts at two ISPs (Verizon, 1stNetUSA) > and then POP3 from their servers. Thus, I can block port 25 at the > firewall but this would be rather frustrating if you're expecting your > sendmail to receive something. It _would_ solve your spam problem, > however . . . It would solve it in the same way as not running a mail server in the first place... Sendmail does come with a number of built in spam control features, and it may be possible to configure it to use RBL, but I haven't figured out how to do this yet. > - Peter -- John **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 10:57:49 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: sendmail spam On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 11:49:49PM -0800, Peter Skye wrote: > John Poltorak wrote: > > > > IBM's latest Sendmail ... > > The headers have:- > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0 > > When you start the server it reports itself as:- > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03 > > If you try to display what is in the queue, it says:- > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.04 > > > > I don't have a copy of the sendmail which > > comes with Warp 4 handy, so can't say what > > version that reports. Does anyone know? > > Warp 4 (I'm at Fixpak 10, sendmail.exe is dated 15Apr1999) headers have: I'm not sure of the origin of this sendmail.exe since it isn't included in any FPs. > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.02/2.0 > > Starting the server displays: > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.02 > > Not sure how you're displaying the queue. I change to the > \MPTN\ETC\mqueue\ directory and run DIR. sendmail -bp > > > set [your firewall] up so outsiders > > > can't sign on to your sendmail. > > > > Blocking port 25 when you are running > > a mail server is not a good idea. > > I sometimes forget that people aren't doing things the same way _I'm_ > doing them. > > I use sendmail for outgoing mail only. For incoming I use ZoneEdit.com > to reroute several domains to accounts at two ISPs (Verizon, 1stNetUSA) > and then POP3 from their servers. Thus, I can block port 25 at the > firewall but this would be rather frustrating if you're expecting your > sendmail to receive something. It _would_ solve your spam problem, > however . . . It would solve it in the same way as not running a mail server in the first place... Sendmail does come with a number of built in spam control features, and it may be possible to configure it to use RBL, but I haven't figured out how to do this yet. > - Peter -- John **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 10:57:49 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: sendmail spam On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 11:49:49PM -0800, Peter Skye wrote: > John Poltorak wrote: > > > > IBM's latest Sendmail ... > > The headers have:- > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03/2.0 > > When you start the server it reports itself as:- > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.03 > > If you try to display what is in the queue, it says:- > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.04 > > > > I don't have a copy of the sendmail which > > comes with Warp 4 handy, so can't say what > > version that reports. Does anyone know? > > Warp 4 (I'm at Fixpak 10, sendmail.exe is dated 15Apr1999) headers have: I'm not sure of the origin of this sendmail.exe since it isn't included in any FPs. > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.02/2.0 > > Starting the server displays: > > IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.02 > > Not sure how you're displaying the queue. I change to the > \MPTN\ETC\mqueue\ directory and run DIR. sendmail -bp > > > set [your firewall] up so outsiders > > > can't sign on to your sendmail. > > > > Blocking port 25 when you are running > > a mail server is not a good idea. > > I sometimes forget that people aren't doing things the same way _I'm_ > doing them. > > I use sendmail for outgoing mail only. For incoming I use ZoneEdit.com > to reroute several domains to accounts at two ISPs (Verizon, 1stNetUSA) > and then POP3 from their servers. Thus, I can block port 25 at the > firewall but this would be rather frustrating if you're expecting your > sendmail to receive something. It _would_ solve your spam problem, > however . . . It would solve it in the same way as not running a mail server in the first place... Sendmail does come with a number of built in spam control features, and it may be possible to configure it to use RBL, but I haven't figured out how to do this yet. > - Peter -- John **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:35:51 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: os2user.exe On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 08:55:12PM +1000, Nicholas Sheppard wrote: > On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, John Poltorak wrote: > > > I was testing IPOP3D last week and it appeared to work OK, but now I keep > > getting 'bad password' even when I've just added a new user. > > It seems to be working okay for me with a dummy database of three users > but I haven't been using it extensively. While I was testing this I *did* > notice that the -t option of os2user doesn't work but that wouldn't have > any bearing on your problem as I understand it. That's exactly the problem I'm referring to. I was trying to verify a new user/password combination was working OK before proceeding to use IPOP3D. If you're saying the -t option doesn't work then I'll simply add a new user and see if I can pick up the mail... > Nicholas S. -- John **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:35:51 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: os2user.exe On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 08:55:12PM +1000, Nicholas Sheppard wrote: > On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, John Poltorak wrote: > > > I was testing IPOP3D last week and it appeared to work OK, but now I keep > > getting 'bad password' even when I've just added a new user. > > It seems to be working okay for me with a dummy database of three users > but I haven't been using it extensively. While I was testing this I *did* > notice that the -t option of os2user doesn't work but that wouldn't have > any bearing on your problem as I understand it. That's exactly the problem I'm referring to. I was trying to verify a new user/password combination was working OK before proceeding to use IPOP3D. If you're saying the -t option doesn't work then I'll simply add a new user and see if I can pick up the mail... > Nicholas S. -- John **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:35:51 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: os2user.exe On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 08:55:12PM +1000, Nicholas Sheppard wrote: > On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, John Poltorak wrote: > > > I was testing IPOP3D last week and it appeared to work OK, but now I keep > > getting 'bad password' even when I've just added a new user. > > It seems to be working okay for me with a dummy database of three users > but I haven't been using it extensively. While I was testing this I *did* > notice that the -t option of os2user doesn't work but that wouldn't have > any bearing on your problem as I understand it. That's exactly the problem I'm referring to. I was trying to verify a new user/password combination was working OK before proceeding to use IPOP3D. If you're saying the -t option doesn't work then I'll simply add a new user and see if I can pick up the mail... > Nicholas S. -- John **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:55:12 +1000 (EST) From: Nicholas Sheppard Subject: Re: os2user.exe On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, John Poltorak wrote: > I was testing IPOP3D last week and it appeared to work OK, but now I keep > getting 'bad password' even when I've just added a new user. It seems to be working okay for me with a dummy database of three users but I haven't been using it extensively. While I was testing this I *did* notice that the -t option of os2user doesn't work but that wouldn't have any bearing on your problem as I understand it. I can think of two possibilities stemming from lacklustre documentation: 1. You have the USER variable set in the process running ipop3d, which may cause it to think you are logged in as that user. Make sure USER is non-existent or empty in the ipop3d process. 2. You have an \etc\cram-md5.pwd or \etc\mptn\cram-md5.pwd file. The documentation gives the impression that \etc\passwd is checked first but in fact the CRAM-MD5 file is used if it is found; passwd will be ignored if it is. Also the location of passwd being used by os2user and by ipop3d could be different. os2user uses %etc%\passwd unless you tell it otherwise using the -d option; ipop3d and imapd are hard-coded as \etc\passwd or \etc\mptn\passwd. If ETC is set, e.g., to \tcpip\etc, there may be problems. Nicholas S. **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:55:12 +1000 (EST) From: Nicholas Sheppard Subject: Re: os2user.exe On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, John Poltorak wrote: > I was testing IPOP3D last week and it appeared to work OK, but now I keep > getting 'bad password' even when I've just added a new user. It seems to be working okay for me with a dummy database of three users but I haven't been using it extensively. While I was testing this I *did* notice that the -t option of os2user doesn't work but that wouldn't have any bearing on your problem as I understand it. I can think of two possibilities stemming from lacklustre documentation: 1. You have the USER variable set in the process running ipop3d, which may cause it to think you are logged in as that user. Make sure USER is non-existent or empty in the ipop3d process. 2. You have an \etc\cram-md5.pwd or \etc\mptn\cram-md5.pwd file. The documentation gives the impression that \etc\passwd is checked first but in fact the CRAM-MD5 file is used if it is found; passwd will be ignored if it is. Also the location of passwd being used by os2user and by ipop3d could be different. os2user uses %etc%\passwd unless you tell it otherwise using the -d option; ipop3d and imapd are hard-coded as \etc\passwd or \etc\mptn\passwd. If ETC is set, e.g., to \tcpip\etc, there may be problems. Nicholas S. **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:51:45 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: IPOP3D & SYSLOG Is there any way to get IPOP3D to output any msgs to SYSLOG? -- John **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:51:45 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: IPOP3D & SYSLOG Is there any way to get IPOP3D to output any msgs to SYSLOG? -- John **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:51:45 +0000 From: John Poltorak Subject: IPOP3D & SYSLOG Is there any way to get IPOP3D to output any msgs to SYSLOG? -- John