From: UnixOS2 Archive
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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 04:44:20 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600
Subject: [UnixOS2_Archive] No. 407

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Sunday 22 December 2002
 Number  407
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  Relaying denied : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
2  Re:  Mail : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
3  Re:  ***Mail Problems*** : Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
4  Re:  Mail : IanM" <IanM>
5  Re:  ***Mail Problems*** : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
6  Re:  Autoconf for beginners : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
7   Automake : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
8  Re:  Automake : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
9  Re:  compiling environment : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
10  Re:  compiling environment : Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
11   Relaying denied : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
12  Re:  compiling environment : Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
13  Re:  Posix/2 v. EMX includes : Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
14   Variable substitution is shell script : John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
15  Re:  Variable substitution is shell script : Stefan Neis <neis at cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:54:44 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:  Re:  Relaying denied



John Poltorak wrote:
> It looks like a number of people tried to send msgs to this list but got a 
> relaying denied error.
> 
> Could you re-send those msgs please?
> 
> 


-- 
--
Ted Sikora
tsikora at ntplx.net



**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:55:21 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:  Re:  Mail

Relay Test!!!

Ted Sikora wrote:
> Is it working yet?
> -- 
> Ted Sikora
> tsikora at ntplx.net
> 


-- 
--
Ted Sikora
tsikora at ntplx.net



**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:04:19 -0600 (CST)
From:  "Maynard" <maynard.o at discourse.mentabolism.org>
Subject:  Re:  ***Mail Problems***

On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 21:47:24 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:

>Can anyone who hasn't posted anything in the last couple of days reply to 
>this?

Hi; I'm still watching ;-}

Merry Christmas,

-- Maynard



**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:33:31 +1100 (EDT)
From:  "IanM" <IanM>
Subject:  Re:  Mail

Hi John

What email address do we use to contact you personally ?

... while talking to mail.manninghammills.org.:
 >>> RCPT To:<jp at manninghammills.org>
<<< 550 <jp at manninghammills.org>...  relaying denied on 213.152.37.93
550 5.1.1 <jp at manninghammills.org>... User unknown

I've also sent you a few emails I suspect have gone walk about
as well. If you can get your Domain Manager to re-redelegate, ns1 and
ns2.comkal.net are still setup properly, I also suspect there will be a
queue of email for you on your "old" secondary MX.  I'm not in
Melbourne at present so I'm only checking email every other day.

Anyway, have a great Christmas everyone.

Cheers
IanM
http://www.os2site.com/


Of COURSE I'm on topic. (Which echo is this?)

**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:29:06 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:  Re:  ***Mail Problems***

I got it!

Maynard wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 21:47:24 +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> 
>>Can anyone who hasn't posted anything in the last couple of days reply to 
>>this?
> 
> 
> Hi; I'm still watching ;-}
> 
> Merry Christmas,
> 
> -- Maynard
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
--
Ted Sikora
tsikora at ntplx.net



**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:44:17 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  Autoconf for beginners

On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 03:05:52PM +0100, Adrian Gschwend wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:56:38 +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> >I've always been a big fan of the wonders of autoconf+friends without 
> >having any real understanding of how it worked, so I thought I would try 
> >to build a configure script via autoconf from scratch for building 
> >regex.lib.
> 
> I'm catching up with reading emails :-))) Very long delay I know...
> 
> I just want to point you to a book about the topic, it's available in
> print but also for free:
> 
> http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/index.html

Yes, I've been aware of the book for some time and would have bought it, 
but AFAIK it is based on Autoconf v2.13 and there have been significant 
changes introduced when v2.50 was released.

Maybe I'll get the second edition if it gets released.

Having said that, the book is downloadable, so I may delve into it...

 
> cu
> 
> Adrian
> 
> 
> -- 
> Adrian Gschwend
>  at  netlabs.org
> 
> ktk [a t] netlabs.org
> -------
> Free Software for OS/2 and eCS
> http://www.netlabs.org
> 


-- 
John



**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:22:17 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   Automake


There is an OS/2 version of Automake v1.6.2 which includes a couple 
patches for the original code, and I was wondering whether I should try to 
apply these patches to the latest release (v1.7.2), but notice one of the 
subdirectories no longer exists. Is this particular patch now redundant?

The other patch is mentioned in the Changelog as having been added, but I 
don't see. Can anyone else see it, or has it been taken out subsequently?


-- 
John



**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:34:51 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  Automake

On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 11:22:17AM +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> The other patch is mentioned in the Changelog as having been added, but I 
> don't see. Can anyone else see it, or has it been taken out subsequently?

Having looked again, it looks as though the patch was modified with the 
resultant change in Automake being to substitute $(LN) for ln.

Does this mean that $LN needs to be set on OS/2 or does Automake itself 
(or something else) take care of it?

Also does this mean that Automake v1.7.2 now functions correctly on OS/2 
without needing any patches at all?


-- 
John


**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:49:44 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:  Re:  compiling environment

On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 02:57:37PM +0100, Adrian Gschwend wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I finished my diploma work one week ago, together with a friend I wrote
> an application on Debian GNU/Linux systems for distributed computing.
> 
> Now it's time to try to compile it on OS/2 so I need to set up the
> build environment here. 

My OS/2 Build System is an attempt to put together a standard build 
environment. I'm hoping a few people may be able to give me some feedback 
as to how well it works.

> On my Linux box I use the following stuff:
> 
> - autoconf 2.56
> - automake 1.4 p6
> - libtool 1.4.3
> - make 3.8
> - autoheader 2.56 (is that part of autoconf?)
> - GCC 2.95
> 
> I saw that John compiled make 3.8 on OS/2, is there already a UnixOS2
> package available for that one? I couldn't find it on os2ports.com so
> far.

I only got as far as building it. I don't think it is ready for general 
use yet.

 
> GCC is available but I don't know if this is FHS compilant? I want to
> avoid to have a mixture in my structure so I prefer clean ports. 

I think GCC will take some time to knock into shape.

 
> Autoconf 2.57 seems to be available but I missed the part where to get
> it :-) 

ftp.gnu.org   :-)....

 
> Automake exists as p5, could that lead to problems?


I think Automake v1.7.2 may be fully functional on OS/2 without requiring 
any patches, but would like Andreas to confirm that.

> cu & thanks for the hints
> 
> Adrian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Adrian Gschwend
>  at  netlabs.org
> 
> ktk [a t] netlabs.org
> -------
> Free Software for OS/2 and eCS
> http://www.netlabs.org

-- 
John 


**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:01:57 +0100
From:  Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
Subject:  Re:  compiling environment

Hello!

Two of my postings seem to have vanished. ;-)


Adrian Gschwend wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I finished my diploma work one week ago, together with a friend I wrote

Congratulations!


> an application on Debian GNU/Linux systems for distributed computing.
> 
> Now it's time to try to compile it on OS/2 so I need to set up the
> build environment here. On my Linux box I use the following stuff:
> 
> - autoconf 2.56

Try http://unix.os2site.com/sw/pub/source/autoconf-2_57.zip

> - automake 1.4 p6

Try http://unix.os2site.com/sw/pub/source/automake-1_7_2.zip

> - libtool 1.4.3

I have a patched libtool 1.4.2 here on my hard disk. The basic
features seem to work 100%. I still have to merge it with 1.4.3
before I want to release it. This is a rather nasty and time
consuming job because libtool is so unbelievable slow.
Expect it (hopefully) in january.


> - make 3.8

See below.

> - autoheader 2.56 (is that part of autoconf?)

Yes.


> - GCC 2.95

There is only pgcc 2.95 which you have to install by hand.


> I saw that John compiled make 3.8 on OS/2, is there already a UnixOS2
> package available for that one? I couldn't find it on os2ports.com so
> far.

Not yet. As John said it seems to work out of the box. However,
I plan to apply some small changes but this won't happen this year
anymore. ;-)
Yesterday I uploaded sed 4.0.5 which has now NLS support. More
important, all internal tests passed successfully.
You can try http://unix.os2site.com/sw/pub/binary/sed-4_0_5-bin.zip.
Maybe I can finish grep 2.5 today but after this the only thing
I'm going to fix this year is a Christmas tree. :-)

[snip]

Bye,
Andreas

-- 
One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them,
One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:11:26 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   Relaying denied


It looks like a number of people tried to send msgs to this list but got a 
relaying denied error.

Could you re-send those msgs please?


-- 
John


**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:26:52 +0100
From:  Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
Subject:  Re:  compiling environment


**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:26:57 +0100
From:  Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
Subject:  Re:  Posix/2 v. EMX includes


**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:16:01 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at manninghammills.org>
Subject:   Variable substitution is shell script



I having a hard time trying to get variable substitution working in a 
shell script, and would appreciate some expert help here.

The problem is likely to be due to the embedded quotes marks in the 
variable I'm trying to use.

The problem amounts to this. I have a shell script which works fine for 
building FLEX where the Make line consists of:-

make CFLAGS="-O2" LDFLAGS="-s -Zmt -Zcrtdll -Zsysv-signals -Zbin-files -Zexe"

What I want to be able to do is extract the  arguments being passed to 
make, from an external file, but I can't get the format correct


I normally use the following process to extract various parameter from a 
parameter file, thus:-

grep ^$PKG build.table > tmp

IFS=';'

read p1 ARCHIVE LOC CFLAGS LDFLAGS CFGPARMS MAKEPARM SRC < tmp 

echo ARCHIVE LOC CFLAGS LDFLAGS CFGPARMS MAKEPARM SRC
echo $ARCHIVE $LOC $CFLAGS $LDFLAGS $CFGPARMS $MAKEPARM $SRC



and at the end I can run:-

make "$MAKEPARM"


This is how the line is built up:-


alias;archive;loc;cflags;ldflags;cfgparms;makeparms;src;


and I would like to put this string into the makeparms section:-

CFLAGS="-O2" LDFLAGS="-s -Zmt -Zcrtdll -Zsysv-signals -Zbin-files -Zexe"



Unfortunately the quotes get messed up and I get this error:-


make CFLAGS="-O2" LDFLAGS="-s -Zmt -Zcrtdll -Zsysv-signals -Zbin-files -Zexe"
build.sh[134]: test: LDFLAGS="-s: unexpected operator/operand


It looks as though I need to introduce an escape character or something 
but I can't figure it out myself...


-- 
John


**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:46:08 +0100 (CET)
From:  Stefan Neis <neis at cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>
Subject:  Re:  Variable substitution is shell script

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, John Poltorak wrote:

> make CFLAGS="-O2" LDFLAGS="-s -Zmt -Zcrtdll -Zsysv-signals -Zbin-files -Zexe"
> build.sh[134]: test: LDFLAGS="-s: unexpected operator/operand

Looks like something is splitting arguments at spaces, independently of
quotatation. Maybe, if you could get the upper line to read
 make CFLAGS="-O2" LDFLAGS="-s\ -Zmt\ -Zcrtdll\ -Zsysv-signals\ -Zbin-files\ -Zexe"
that might work better. Just guessing...

	Regards,
		Stefan

P.S.: Merry christmas, everybody.