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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 04:42:59 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600
Subject: [UnixOS2_Archive] No. 391

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Friday 06 December 2002
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Subjects for today
 
1   Solved!  was: Installing autoconf : Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
2  Re:  Installing autoconf : Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
3  Re:  Installing autoconf : Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
4  Re:  Permissions problem : Andrew MacIntyre <andymac at bullseye.apana.org.au>
5  Re:  Mailman getting close : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
6   config.site : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
7  Re:  Installing autoconf : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
8  Re: Make bug?, was:  got lost : Ken Ames <kenames at pacbell.net>
9  Re:  Mailman getting close : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
10  Re:  config.site : Thomas Dickey <dickey at herndon4.his.com>
11   The story so far... : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
12  Re:  Mailman getting close : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
13  Make bug?, was:  got lost : Stefan Neis <neis at cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>
14   mailman cgi : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
15  Re:  config.site : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
16  Re:  mailman cgi : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
17  Re:  config.site : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
18  Re:  Mailman getting close : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
19  Re:  config.site : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
20  Re:  mailman cgi : Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
21  Re:  Ncurses build error : Thomas Dickey <dickey at herndon4.his.com>
22  Re:  config.site : Thomas Dickey <dickey at herndon4.his.com>
23  Re:  mailman cgi : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
24   $PREFIX precedence : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
25  Re:  mailman cgi : Lyn St George" <lyn at zolotek.net>
26  Re:  Mailman getting close : Andrew MacIntyre <andymac at bullseye.apana.org.au>
27   Ncurses build error : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>

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Date:  Sat, 07 Dec 2002 00:38:56 +0100 (CET)
From:  "Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Subject:   Solved!  was: Installing autoconf

My second problem with installing autoconf is solved: due to accidental
file deletion, me being an idiot, or bad vibrations, the correct regex
DLL was missing. Autoconf and automake installed fine. Sorry for
bothering you.

Christian Hennecke


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Date:  Sat, 07 Dec 2002 00:49:22 +0100
From:  Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
Subject:  Re:  Installing autoconf

Christian Hennecke wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 05 Dec 2002 21:04:39 +0100, Andreas Buening wrote:

[snip]

> >What exactly did you do, what exactly is your configure output
> >and which sed and which chmod do you use?
> 
> Meanwhile I installed all the latest stuff that is available at
> OS/2ports.com. The chmod error has gone now, but instead there are
> others.
> 
> I did the following:
> 
> - unzip the autoconf package to my e: drive where all the Unix-stuff
> resides
> - make sure install.exe is the correct one
> - start ksh in the autoconf directory
> - enter 'export ac_executable_extensions=".exe"'
> - enter './configure --prefix=e:/usr'
> 
> The output is:
> 
> [5]/autoconf-2.53b: ./configure --prefix=e:/usr
> ./configure[237]: sed: No such file or directory

Okay, it's just an assumption: You have no sed.exe in your PATH.

[snip]


Bye,
Andreas

-- 
One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them,
One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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Date:  Sat, 07 Dec 2002 00:49:46 +0100
From:  Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
Subject:  Re:  Installing autoconf

John Poltorak wrote:
> 

[autoconf]

> Is there any prospect of the OS/2 patches in 2.53bR2 being integrated into
> the mainstream version?

The "patches" aren't anything special. They set
ac_executable_extensions, replace '\' by '/' in your PATH
and change the behaviour of AC_CHECK_LIB slightly so that
you don't get drowned by linker warnings if you use link386.
They don't affect the usability if you've set up your environment
correctly. To answer your question, I don't think they would
be accepted as they are.


Bye,
Andreas

-- 
One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them,
One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 08:49:35 +1000 (est)
From:  Andrew MacIntyre <andymac at bullseye.apana.org.au>
Subject:  Re:  Permissions problem

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On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, John Poltorak wrote:

> When I tried using NEWLIST, I got:-
>
> [C:\usr\local\bin]python newlist
> Enter the name of the list: py-test
> Enter the email of the person running the list: jp at eyup.org
> Initial py-test password:
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "newlist", line 220, in ?
>     main()
>   File "newlist", line 169, in main
>     mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw)
>   File "c:/usr/local/Mailman/MailList.py", line 782, in Create
>     Utils.MakeDirTree(os.path.join(mm_cfg.LIST_DATA_DIR, name))
>   File "c:/usr/local/Mailman/Utils.py", line 265, in MakeDirTree
>     os.mkdir(made_part, perms)
> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/c:'
>
>
> Maybe there is some way to skip drive letters... I may try building the
> whole thing using a prefix of /usr/local instead of c:/usr/local and see
> if that makes any difference.

Try the attached patch (untested quick hack) to the file
c:/usr/local/Mailman/Utils.py

There are almost certainly other Unixisms in Mailman - AFAIK its not
running on Windows either (incl Cygwin).

--
Andrew I MacIntyre                     "These thoughts are mine alone..."
E-mail: andymac at bullseye.apana.org.au  | Snail: PO Box 370
        andymac at pcug.org.au            |        Belconnen  ACT  2616
Web:    http://www.andymac.org/        |        Australia

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Date:  Sat, 07 Dec 2002 09:57:49 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:  Re:  Mailman getting close

Andrew MacIntyre wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Ted Sikora wrote:
> 
> > Ted Sikora wrote:
> >
> > > Using just python newlist gives:
> > >
> > > [netcast|d:/unixos2/home/mailman/bin]python newlist
> > > Enter the name of the list: test
> > > Enter the email of the person running the list: ted at powerusersbbs.net
> > > Initial test password:
> > > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > >   File "newlist", line 220, in ?
> > >     main()
> > >   File "newlist", line 169, in main
> > >     mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw)
> > >   File "/unixos2/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 786, in Create
> > >     self.__lock.lock()
> > >   File "/unixos2/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in lock
> > >     self.__write()
> > >   File "/unixos2/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in __write
> > >     fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
> > > IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
> > > '/unixos2/home/mailman/locks/<site
> > > >.lock.netcast.3580'
> > >
> > > Seems it cannot create a lockfile or find <site>.
> 
> The "<" and ">" are illegal characters in filenames it seems.  Try
> changing the reference to '<site>' in MailList.py to '=site=', or try the
> attached patch (which does the same thing more verbosely).
> 

Thanks I'll try it. In the meantime I got the complete program to
install by changing DIRSETGID=: in makefile.in. Originally I used 'echo'
but the README.BSD recommended : without it the /cgi-bin scripts are
absent. Do I need to pass some configure options for cgi in OS/2?
Unfortunately they do not work ie;

http://powerusersbbs.net/mailman/admin

Apache logs report:

(191)Unknown error
:couldn't create child process: 191: admin
(191)Unknown error
:couldn't spawn child process: 191:
D:/unixos2/home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin

Damn I was hoping to at least get the web interface working last night. 

--
Ted Sikora
tsikora at ntplx.net

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Date:  Sat, 07 Dec 2002 10:45:21 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:   config.site

PATH=`cmd.exe /c "echo %PATH%" | sed -e 's at \\\\ at / at g'`
PATH_SEPARATOR=';'

Is this really needed? Trying to clean up my build environment. Seems to
make no difference anyways.

--
Ted Sikora
tsikora at ntplx.net

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Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:06:32 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  Installing autoconf

On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 12:49:46AM +0100, Andreas Buening wrote:
> John Poltorak wrote:
> > 
> 
> [autoconf]
> 
> > Is there any prospect of the OS/2 patches in 2.53bR2 being integrated into
> > the mainstream version?
> 
> The "patches" aren't anything special. They set
> ac_executable_extensions, replace '\' by '/' in your PATH
> and change the behaviour of AC_CHECK_LIB slightly so that
> you don't get drowned by linker warnings if you use link386.

It's great that there are so few patches, although I would have thought 
some of the would also apply to Win32 so should be acceptable for 
inclusion. This one for instance (general.m4) :-


-    [[\\/$]]* | ?:[[\\/]]* | NONE | '' ) ;;
+    [[\\/$]]* | ?:[[\\/]]* | ?: | NONE | '' ) ;;


> They don't affect the usability if you've set up your environment
> correctly. 

But how can anyone ensure that their environment has been set up 
correctly in the first place? Can everything necessary be handled by 
config.site?

> To answer your question, I don't think they would
> be accepted as they are.

The problem about long term maintenance remains. 

Are the patches applicable to every release of autoconf?

Wouldn't it be better to supply a standalone .m4 macro specifically for 
OS/2 - a sort of ac-os2 or aclocal of some sort which could be maintained 
indepedently of autoconf?

 
> 
> Bye,
> Andreas
> 
> -- 
> One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them,
> One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
> In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.


-- 
John


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Date:  Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:19:43 -0800
From:  Ken Ames <kenames at pacbell.net>
Subject:  Re: Make bug?, was:  got lost

hi Stefan,

Stefan Neis wrote:

>On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Ken Ames wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Abnormal program termination
>>core dumped
>>gmake: *** [lib/libwx_os2-2.3.a] Error 3
>>    
>>
>
>Oops! Sounds like a serious problem on the part of the compiler.
>What exactly are you using? EMX-0.9d (i.e. gcc-2.8.1) or
>pgcc-2.95.something or gcc-3.0.3? Maybe some resource is running low?
>  
>
I am running emx 0.9d with fix4 and gcc 2.8.1 - it does this on a fresh 
reboot (only window open) hmmm, maybe file handles run out or something? 
a WAG.

> 
>  
>
>Yes, important addition to the readme. wxWindows is using "gcc -MMD" to
>auto-generate files with dependency information, however, it uses "/" in
>the path names (or rather a mixture of "/" and "\") which GNU make for
>whatever reason doesn't like at all (although it should, IMHO). 
>I'm "manually" fixing the problem by running
>  for %1 in (*.d) do  at (sed "s/\//\\/g" < %1 > dep.sed && copy dep.sed %1)
>when needed.
>
>	Regards,
>  
>
>		Stefan
>  
>
oh no! shell script! (I think) I am completely lost in that so could you 
be a bit more specific as to where and how I use that? I need to figure 
out that 1st error above too, I don't like that kind of thing happening.

thanks
Ken

oh, BTW, do you use the wxwindows irc channel?


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Date:  Sat, 07 Dec 2002 11:47:31 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:  Re:  Mailman getting close

John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 09:57:49AM -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:
> >
> > Thanks I'll try it. In the meantime I got the complete program to
> > install by changing DIRSETGID=: in makefile.in. Originally I used 'echo'
> > but the README.BSD recommended : without it the /cgi-bin scripts are
> > absent. Do I need to pass some configure options for cgi in OS/2?
> > Unfortunately they do not work ie;
> >
> > http://powerusersbbs.net/mailman/admin
> >
> > Apache logs report:
> >
> > (191)Unknown error
> > :couldn't create child process: 191: admin
> > (191)Unknown error
> > :couldn't spawn child process: 191:
> > D:/unixos2/home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
> >
> > Damn I was hoping to at least get the web interface working last night.
> 
> I thought that would be the easiest bit to set up...

No their compiled cgi-bin scripts or execs I believe. 

Here's what I get when trying it on the command line in Linux:

./admin
Content-type: text/html

<head>
<title>Mailman CGI error!!!</title>
</head><body>
<h1>Mailman CGI error!!!</h1>
The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not match the gid as set
by the Web server.<p>The most likely cause is that Mailman was
configured and installed incorrectly.  Please read the INSTALL
instructions again, paying close attention to the
<tt>--with-cgi-gid</tt> configure option.  This entry is being stored in
your syslog:
<pre>
Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 98, GOT gid 0.  (Reconfigure to take
0?)</pre>

In OS/2:

./admin
Execution failed because of module ".\ADMIN"
"./admin" no such file or directory


I copied the unixos2 /bin and /usr/bin to x:/usr/bin and added it to the
path now all the scripts work standalone ie; ./newlist

> 
> Maybe Zope would give me a clue about how to handle python programs on a
> web server... How easy is it for a novice to install?

Extremely easy just follow the readme should be up and running in 5
minutes or less. 

ftp://os2ports.com/pub/os2/unix/internet/Zope/

--
Ted Sikora
tsikora at ntplx.net

**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 12:38:29 -0500
From:  Thomas Dickey <dickey at herndon4.his.com>
Subject:  Re:  config.site

On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 04:11:25PM +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:54:22AM +0900, ?$B_7ED at P!!=g?(B wrote:
> > Ted Sikora wrote:
> > >PATH=`cmd.exe /c "echo %PATH%" | sed -e 's at \\\\ at / at g'`
> > >PATH_SEPARATOR=';'
> > >Is this really needed? 
> >  I say YES. Without converting '\' to '/', you will fail to 
> > run some  "configure" scripts. 
> 
> This shouldn't be a problem if the configure script is rebuilt with a 
> recent version of autoconf.

That would be nice; however at least one of the autoconf maintainers has
stated that he refuses to make changes for path-separator.

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey <dickey at invisible-island.net>
http://invisible-island.net
ftp://invisible-island.net

**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 12:39:04 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:   The story so far...


A number of people have joined the list in recent months and may not be 
familiar with what has been going on or what the general aims of the list 
are, so I'll attempt to recap...

The purpose of the list is twofold. Firstly it is place to get help with 
setting up Unix apps and utils in an OS/2 environment. Or to be more 
precise Open Source apps, since a number of significant apps are now 
advertising themselves as cross-platform, rather than just being targetted 
at Unix. In due course it would be nice to be able to use OpenWatcom along 
with wxWindows and build something like OpenOffice straight out of the box 
on OS/2. OK, I may be dreaming, but why not?


The second aim, which is a long term goal, is to build a UnixOS/2 
distro. In essence, this will be something like a standard Linux distro 
such as SlackWare, but without the Linux kernel, although it will rely on 
an existing OS/2 kernel. All that the Linux kernel provides is a base OS 
which hosts a large quantity of Open Source Software. In principle most of 
that software should be able to run on OS/2, and in fact many apps, such 
as, Apache, XFree86, MySQL, Sendmail, Perl, Python, Emacs etc. already do.
The problem is that there is no unifying framework for this environment. 
There is no standard directory structure, no standard set of apps, no 
standard build environment. Everything is left for the individual porter  
to decide for himself. UnixOS/2 is an attempt to provide a single 
framework and make it easier to bring OSS apps to OS/2. As a first step to 
doing so, SlackWare was selected as a reference platform for UnixOS/2 
because it provided a fairly clear and non-proprietary method of package 
management, which seemed like a good model to follow. Anyone wanting to 
understand how UnixOS/2 is evolving should familiarise themselves with a 
normal Slackware distro. Initially, a number of UnixOS/2 packages were 
assembled based on existing SlackWare packages, but with Linux binaries 
substituted by OS/2 binaries wherever they were available. 

At the present time, I am attempting to rebuild all the existing packages 
from source code, which is a fairly time consuming task. As part of this 
rebuilding, I am hoping to provide build scripts for every package, so I 
would be obliged if anyone could try them out to make sure they work 
correctly. Wherever possible, I would like to use the standard GNU build 
system which is supplied with most apps. This normally consists of running 
configure, make and make install. Under OS/2 the supplied configure script 
rarely works, *but* when rebuilt using autoconf it stands a reasonable 
chance. 


I'm putting together a UnixOS/2 Build System which is essentially a 
wrapper around the GNU build system, and hope it will be useable for every 
UnixOS/2 app. It has already worked pretty well building Perl, which is 
uses quite a complex build environment, and I'm in the process of 
enhancing it. I'll provide further details as and when they are available.

If anyone has any thoughts, questions, ideas, suggestions etc. feel free 
to provide them. 

-- 
John


**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 14:58:45 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  Mailman getting close

On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 09:57:49AM -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:
> 
> Thanks I'll try it. In the meantime I got the complete program to
> install by changing DIRSETGID=: in makefile.in. Originally I used 'echo'
> but the README.BSD recommended : without it the /cgi-bin scripts are
> absent. Do I need to pass some configure options for cgi in OS/2?
> Unfortunately they do not work ie;
> 
> http://powerusersbbs.net/mailman/admin
> 
> Apache logs report:
> 
> (191)Unknown error
> :couldn't create child process: 191: admin
> (191)Unknown error
> :couldn't spawn child process: 191:
> D:/unixos2/home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
> 
> Damn I was hoping to at least get the web interface working last night. 

I thought that would be the easiest bit to set up...

In the case of admin above, is that admin.pyc ?


Do you need something within Apache to equate .pyc files with python?

Maybe Zope would give me a clue about how to handle python programs on a 
web server... How easy is it for a novice to install?

 
> --
> Ted Sikora
> tsikora at ntplx.net


-- 
John


**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 15:15:15 +0100 (CET)
From:  Stefan Neis <neis at cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>
Subject:  Make bug?, was:  got lost

On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Ken Ames wrote:

> gcc -c   -I./lib/wx/include/os2-2.3 -I../../include -I../../src/regex 
> -I../../sr
> c/zlib -I../../src/png -I../../src/jpeg -I../../src/tiff    -D__WXPM__  
> -O2 -MMD
>  -O2 -m486 -Zmt -Wall  -o inffast.o ../../src/zlib/inffast.c
> 
> Abnormal program termination
> core dumped
> gmake: *** [lib/libwx_os2-2.3.a] Error 3

Oops! Sounds like a serious problem on the part of the compiler.
What exactly are you using? EMX-0.9d (i.e. gcc-2.8.1) or
pgcc-2.95.something or gcc-3.0.3? Maybe some resource is running low?
 
> [X:\wxwindows-2.3.4\gcc-build\pm]gmake
> gmake: *** No rule to make target `../../src/os2Paccel.cpp', needed by 
> `accel.o'
> .  Stop.
> 
> that is a stopped (from an error I am guessing) and restarted compile run.
> any insight would be appreciated, thanks

Yes, important addition to the readme. wxWindows is using "gcc -MMD" to
auto-generate files with dependency information, however, it uses "/" in
the path names (or rather a mixture of "/" and "\") which GNU make for
whatever reason doesn't like at all (although it should, IMHO). 
I'm "manually" fixing the problem by running
  for %1 in (*.d) do  at (sed "s/\//\\/g" < %1 > dep.sed && copy dep.sed %1)
when needed.

	Regards,
		Stefan


**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Dec 2002 15:24:18 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:   mailman cgi

Well it seems it's not Mailman but Apache/2. No cgi script runs they all
produce 'Internal Error: spawn child process'. Anyone know how to make
unix cgi scripts work on OS/2? I renamed them tried changing permissions
in unix then copying them. Is there a helper or variable I need to add
for ScriptAlias on OS/2?

--
Ted Sikora
tsikora at ntplx.net

**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 15:39:20 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  config.site

On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 10:45:21AM -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:
> PATH=`cmd.exe /c "echo %PATH%" | sed -e 's at \\\\ at / at g'`
> PATH_SEPARATOR=';'
> 
> Is this really needed? Trying to clean up my build environment. Seems to
> make no difference anyways.

It all depends on so many different things....

Exactly which shell are you using?

It may also depend on whether you are using Autoconf and which version of 
that.

Nothing is straightforward on OS/2 :-).

 
> --
> Ted Sikora
> tsikora at ntplx.net

-- 
John


**= Email   16 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Dec 2002 15:52:46 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:  Re:  mailman cgi

Ted Sikora wrote:
> 
> Well it seems it's not Mailman but Apache/2. No cgi script runs they all
> produce 'Internal Error: spawn child process'. Anyone know how to make
> unix cgi scripts work on OS/2? I renamed them tried changing permissions
> in unix then copying them. Is there a helper or variable I need to add
> for ScriptAlias on OS/2?
> 
> --
> Ted Sikora
> tsikora at ntplx.net


I think we'll have to make wrapper for cgi. Does one exist? If I rename
the file .cmd it runs. I'll see what I can come up with. 

Here's what I got so far.

http://powerusersbbs.net/cgi-bin/test2.cmd
 
--
Ted Sikora
tsikora at ntplx.net

**= Email   17 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 16:11:25 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  config.site

On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:54:22AM +0900, ?$B_7ED at P!!=g?(B wrote:
> Ted Sikora wrote:
> >PATH=`cmd.exe /c "echo %PATH%" | sed -e 's at \\\\ at / at g'`
> >PATH_SEPARATOR=';'
> >Is this really needed? 
>  I say YES. Without converting '\' to '/', you will fail to 
> run some  "configure" scripts. 

This shouldn't be a problem if the configure script is rebuilt with a 
recent version of autoconf.
 
> # Jun Sawataishi <jsawa at attgobal.net>
> #
> # My recent port: Bash 2.05b, Texinfo 4.3


-- 
John



**= Email   18 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 16:46:54 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  Mailman getting close

On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 11:47:31AM -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:
> John Poltorak wrote:
 
> In OS/2:
> 
> ./admin
> Execution failed because of module ".\ADMIN"
> "./admin" no such file or directory
> 
> 
> I copied the unixos2 /bin and /usr/bin to x:/usr/bin and added it to the
> path now all the scripts work standalone ie; ./newlist

Sounds good. Are you close to having it working?
 
> > 
> > Maybe Zope would give me a clue about how to handle python programs on a
> > web server... How easy is it for a novice to install?
> 
> Extremely easy just follow the readme should be up and running in 5
> minutes or less. 
> 
> ftp://os2ports.com/pub/os2/unix/internet/Zope/

Thanks, I've already downloaded it.

I had started up without realising it included a webserver <duh!> and 
couldn't work out what to do with it...

I've connected through Mozilla now and am trying to find my way around.
Can't say I know what I'm doing, but at least it works :-).

 
> --
> Ted Sikora
> tsikora at ntplx.net


-- 
John



**= Email   19 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 18:53:13 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  config.site

On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 12:38:29PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 04:11:25PM +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:54:22AM +0900, ?$B_7ED at P!!=g?(B wrote:
> > > Ted Sikora wrote:
> > > >PATH=`cmd.exe /c "echo %PATH%" | sed -e 's at \\\\ at / at g'`
> > > >PATH_SEPARATOR=';'
> > > >Is this really needed? 
> > >  I say YES. Without converting '\' to '/', you will fail to 
> > > run some  "configure" scripts. 
> > 
> > This shouldn't be a problem if the configure script is rebuilt with a 
> > recent version of autoconf.
> 
> That would be nice; however at least one of the autoconf maintainers has
> stated that he refuses to make changes for path-separator.

I've looked through various autom4te.cache/output.0 files and they seem to 
contain code like this:-

# The user is always right.
if test "${PATH_SEPARATOR+set}" != set; then
  echo "#! /bin/sh" >conftest.sh
  echo  "exit 0"   >>conftest.sh
  chmod +x conftest.sh
  if (PATH=".;."; conftest.sh) >/dev/null 2>&1; then
    PATH_SEPARATOR=';'
  else
    PATH_SEPARATOR=:
  fi
  rm -f conftest.sh
fi




I'm not exactly certain about how this works, but it seems to me that 
$PATH_SEPARATOR is getting set appropriately if not already set, BICBW.

 
> -- 
> Thomas E. Dickey <dickey at invisible-island.net>
> http://invisible-island.net
> ftp://invisible-island.net


-- 
John


**= Email   20 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Dec 2002 19:03:35 -0500
From:  Ted Sikora <tsikora at ntplx.net>
Subject:  Re:  mailman cgi

Ted Sikora wrote:
> 
> Ted Sikora wrote:
> >
> > Well it seems it's not Mailman but Apache/2. No cgi script runs they all
> > produce 'Internal Error: spawn child process'. Anyone know how to make
> > unix cgi scripts work on OS/2? I renamed them tried changing permissions
> > in unix then copying them. Is there a helper or variable I need to add
> > for ScriptAlias on OS/2?
> >
> > --
> > Ted Sikora
> > tsikora at ntplx.net
> 
> I think we'll have to make wrapper for cgi. Does one exist? If I rename
> the file .cmd it runs. I'll see what I can come up with.
> 
> Here's what I got so far.
> 
> http://powerusersbbs.net/cgi-bin/test2.cmd
> 

Disregard my last few posts I was getting into left field there for a
while. All cgi's now work. After playing with all these scripts my
server locked solid. Now it only runs in VGA 16 colors. If I reinstall
SDD704 or Gradd083 it locks solid on startup. Anyone get this before?

--
Ted Sikora
tsikora at ntplx.net

**= Email   21 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 19:44:19 -0500
From:  Thomas Dickey <dickey at herndon4.his.com>
Subject:  Re:  Ncurses build error

On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 10:49:25PM +0000, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> Whilst trying to build NCURSES, I get the following error:-
...
> What does this mean?
> 
> ld.exe (from emx 0.9d) is definitely available. 
> 
> Do I need a different version?
> 
> There is no ncurses.a, but a libncurses.a has been created. 

ncurses/Makefile is in charge of that - but the configure script 
is supposed to set the name to ncurses.a

It's done with this chunk in aclocal.m4:

dnl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
dnl Compute the library-prefix for the given host system
dnl $1 = variable to set
AC_DEFUN([CF_LIB_PREFIX],
[
	case $cf_cv_system_name in
	OS/2*)	LIB_PREFIX=''     ;;
	os2*)	LIB_PREFIX=''     ;;
	*)	LIB_PREFIX='lib'  ;;
	esac
ifelse($1,,,[$1=$LIB_PREFIX])
	AC_SUBST(LIB_PREFIX)
])dnl

This variable would be in the cache file (not created by default with
autoconf 2.5x, but see configure --help):

	cf_cv_system_name

When I last built on OS/2, I generated the configure script using autoconf
2.13 + patches; the only reason the configure script is generated currently
with 2.52 + patches is to work around a defect in glibc which happens to
cancel a bug in autoconf 2.5x (sometime I'll work on a fix to 2.13 to keep
things in sync).

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey <dickey at invisible-island.net>
http://invisible-island.net
ftp://invisible-island.net

**= Email   22 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 20:23:29 -0500
From:  Thomas Dickey <dickey at herndon4.his.com>
Subject:  Re:  config.site

On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 01:47:26AM +0100, Andreas Buening wrote:
> John Poltorak wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 12:38:29PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> 
> [whether PATH_SEPARATOR works]
> 
> > > That would be nice; however at least one of the autoconf maintainers has
> > > stated that he refuses to make changes for path-separator.
> > 
> > I've looked through various autom4te.cache/output.0 files and they seem to
> > contain code like this:-
> 
> [some code]
>  
> > I'm not exactly certain about how this works, but it seems to me that
> > $PATH_SEPARATOR is getting set appropriately if not already set, BICBW.
> 
> That's true. Thomas, could you explain your statement, please?
> Who refuses to make which kind of changes?

Paul Eggert has said on more than one occasion that rather than accommodate
shells with backslashes as separators, that the developers should adopt
a POSIX shell.  There are some changes to accommodate this, but they are
not complete; when someone asks about this on the autoconf mailing list,
he usually responds to that effect.

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey <dickey at invisible-island.net>
http://invisible-island.net
ftp://invisible-island.net

**= Email   23 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 20:28:59 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  mailman cgi

On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 03:24:18PM -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:
> Well it seems it's not Mailman but Apache/2. No cgi script runs they all
> produce 'Internal Error: spawn child process'. Anyone know how to make
> unix cgi scripts work on OS/2? I renamed them tried changing permissions
> in unix then copying them. Is there a helper or variable I need to add
> for ScriptAlias on OS/2?

I don't know anything about Apache, but on Xitami you need to associate 
file extensions with programs, as in:-

[Filter]
    .php=c:\usr\sbin\php.exe
    .pl=c:\usr\bin\perl-5.6.exe


I guess you would need something similar with .py or .pyc and python.
I'm sure Apache would have a similar mechanism...

 
> --
> Ted Sikora
> tsikora at ntplx.net


-- 
John



**= Email   24 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 21:29:37 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:   $PREFIX precedence


If I have $PREFIX defined in config.site as well as on the configure 
command line and the two values are different, which takes precedence?

From my tests, it appears that the config.site overides the command line 
parameter. Is there any way to make it prevail?


-- 
John



**= Email   25 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 07 Dec 2002 21:53:41 +0000
From:  "Lyn St George" <lyn at zolotek.net>
Subject:  Re:  mailman cgi

On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 15:24:18 -0500, Ted Sikora wrote:

>Well it seems it's not Mailman but Apache/2. No cgi script runs they all
>produce 'Internal Error: spawn child process'. Anyone know how to make
>unix cgi scripts work on OS/2? I renamed them tried changing permissions
>in unix then copying them. Is there a helper or variable I need to add
>for ScriptAlias on OS/2?

I have this in my Apache's conf, but as I don't use .cgi files I can't 
guarantee that it works (though ISTR that it did once upon a time...)

AddHandler cgi-script .pl .exe .cgi

>--
>Ted Sikora
>tsikora at ntplx.net
>
>

-
Cheers
Lyn St George
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+ http://www.zolotek.net .. eCommerce hosting, consulting
+ http://www.os2docs.org .. some 'How To' stuff ...
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


**= Email   26 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 22:27:13 +1000 (est)
From:  Andrew MacIntyre <andymac at bullseye.apana.org.au>
Subject:  Re:  Mailman getting close

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On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Ted Sikora wrote:

> Ted Sikora wrote:
>
> > Using just python newlist gives:
> >
> > [netcast|d:/unixos2/home/mailman/bin]python newlist
> > Enter the name of the list: test
> > Enter the email of the person running the list: ted at powerusersbbs.net
> > Initial test password:
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "newlist", line 220, in ?
> >     main()
> >   File "newlist", line 169, in main
> >     mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw)
> >   File "/unixos2/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 786, in Create
> >     self.__lock.lock()
> >   File "/unixos2/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in lock
> >     self.__write()
> >   File "/unixos2/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in __write
> >     fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
> > IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
> > '/unixos2/home/mailman/locks/<site
> > >.lock.netcast.3580'
> >
> > Seems it cannot create a lockfile or find <site>.

The "<" and ">" are illegal characters in filenames it seems.  Try
changing the reference to '<site>' in MailList.py to '=site=', or try the
attached patch (which does the same thing more verbosely).

--
Andrew I MacIntyre                     "These thoughts are mine alone..."
E-mail: andymac at bullseye.apana.org.au  | Snail: PO Box 370
        andymac at pcug.org.au            |        Belconnen  ACT  2616
Web:    http://www.andymac.org/        |        Australia

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**= Email   27 ==========================**

Date:  Sat, 7 Dec 2002 22:49:25 +0000
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:   Ncurses build error


Whilst trying to build NCURSES, I get the following error:-


make[1]: Entering directory `/unixos2/workdir/ncurses-5.2/progs'
sh -c "./MKtermsort.sh awk ./../include/Caps" >termsort.c
echo "#define PROG_CAPTOINFO \"`echo captoinfo.exe| sed 's/.exe$//'|sed 's,x,x,'|sed 's/$/.exe/'`\"" >transform.h
echo "#define PROG_INFOTOCAP \"`echo infotocap.exe| sed 's/.exe$//'|sed 's,x,x,'|sed 's/$/.exe/'`\"" >>transform.h
echo "#define PROG_RESET     \"`echo reset.exe|     sed 's/.exe$//'|sed 's,x,x,'|sed 's/$/.exe/'`\""     >>transform.h
echo "#define PROG_INIT      \"`echo init.exe|      sed 's/.exe$//'|sed 's,x,x,'|sed 's/$/.exe/'`\""      >>transform.h
cd ../objects;  gcc -I../progs -I.  -DNDEBUG -I. -I../include -I/usr/local/include -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Zmt -D__ST_MT_ERRNO__  -c ../progs/tic.c
cd ../objects;  gcc -I../progs -I.  -DNDEBUG -I. -I../include -I/usr/local/include -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Zmt -D__ST_MT_ERRNO__  -c ../progs/dump_entry.c
gcc ../objects/tic.o ../objects/dump_entry.o -L../lib -L/usr/local/lib 
-lncurses   -Zmt -Zcrtdll    -o tic.exe
U:\EMX\BIN\ld.exe: No such file or directory for ncurses.a


What does this mean?

ld.exe (from emx 0.9d) is definitely available. 

Do I need a different version?

There is no ncurses.a, but a libncurses.a has been created. 


-- 
John