From: UnixOS2 Archive
To: "UnixOS2 Archive" <UnixOS2_Archive at unixos2.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:28:16 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600
Subject: [UnixOS2_Archive] No. 249

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Thursday 20 June 2002
 Number  249
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Subjects for today
 
1  Re:  libtool and -version-info : Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
2  Re:  Korn Shell : Thomas Dickey <dickey at herndon4.his.com>
3  Re:  Korn Shell : Thomas Dickey <dickey at herndon4.his.com>
4  Re:  Re: Perl 5.8.0 - no progress : James Cannon <cyberspittle at yahoo.com>
5  Re:  Korn Shell : James Cannon <cyberspittle at yahoo.com>
6  Re:  Re: Perl 5.8.0 - no progress : Edwin =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FCnthner?= <edgue at web.de>
7  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2 : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
8   Less 376 : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
9   Korn Shell : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
10  Re:  UnixOS/2 distro : mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs)
11  Re:  Korn Shell : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
12   Dialog : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
13  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2 : Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
14  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2 : Holger Veit <holger.veit at ais.fhg.de>
15  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2 : Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
16   UnixOS/2 distro : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
17  Re:  Korn Shell : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
18   Perl 5.8.0 Release Candidate 2 : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
19   Perl5.def : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
20  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2 : Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
21  Re:  Perl5.def : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
22  Re:  libtool and -version-info : Brian Havard" <brianh at kheldar.apana.org.au>
23   GnuPG 1.0.7 : paul hartman" <biz at arabia.com>
24  Re:  UnixOS/2 distro : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
25  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2 : Lyn St George" <lyn at zolotek.net>
26  Re:  Perl 5.8.0 Release Candidate 2 : John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
27   emacs-20.7-KIT1.9.tgz has moved : Masaru Nomiya <nomiya at ttmy.ne.jp>
28  Re:  GnuPG 1.0.7 : Jack Troughton <jake at consultron.ca>
29  Re:  Gettext v0.11.2 : Dave and Natalie" <dave_yeo at mindlink.bc.ca>
30  Re:  Can't make automake : Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>

**= Email   1 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:21:39 +0200
From:  Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
Subject:  Re:  libtool and -version-info

John Poltorak wrote:

[snip]

> I would like to put together a LIBTOOL package, which is currently
> missing from UnixOS/2, but don't know anything about it.

It's a set of (slow) shell scripts that is supposed to
handle building of static and dynamic libraries on all
platforms. In principle it should be possible to write
libtool.cmd in REXX that handles all necessary OS/2 stuff.


> Can you tell me where I can find the most recent OS/2 version?

I don't think there is a specific OS/2 version. The current
"official" libtool should be able to handle .o object files
and .a and .dll libraries. For gettext 0.10.39 I added some
stuff for .obj/.lib files. If you think it'll help you
I can put it together into one standalone libtool package.

[snip]


bye,
Andreas

-- 
One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them,
One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Redmond where the Shadows lie.

**= Email   2 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 06:03:38 -0400
From:  Thomas Dickey <dickey at herndon4.his.com>
Subject:  Re:  Korn Shell

On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 10:32:42AM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> 
> The original Korn Shell has been made available as Open Source and is 
> available here:-
> 
> http://www.kornshell.com/
> 
> Does anyone feel like getting this working on OS/2?
> 
> I think it would be really important to have this available to us since 
> there seem to be a few problems with PDKSH.

iirc, the problem with pdksh was not in pdksh itself, but the limitations
on fork/exec relative to tty control.  Since Korn Shell has not been ported
to a non-Unix platform, I don't believe you'll find it an improvement.

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey <dickey at invisible-island.net>
http://invisible-island.net
ftp://invisible-island.net

**= Email   3 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:04:39 -0400
From:  Thomas Dickey <dickey at herndon4.his.com>
Subject:  Re:  Korn Shell

On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 11:32:09AM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 06:03:38AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 10:32:42AM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The original Korn Shell has been made available as Open Source and is 
> > > available here:-
> > > 
> > > http://www.kornshell.com/
> > > 
> > > Does anyone feel like getting this working on OS/2?
> > > 
> > > I think it would be really important to have this available to us since 
> > > there seem to be a few problems with PDKSH.
> > 
> > iirc, the problem with pdksh was not in pdksh itself, but the limitations
> > on fork/exec relative to tty control.  
> 
> My major grouse with PDKSH is that it causes problems for me when I use 
> paths such as c:\usr\bin, since interprets '\b' as a backspace.

that certainly won't improve with Korn Shell...
 
> > Since Korn Shell has not been ported
> > to a non-Unix platform, 
> 
> It does mention MVS and CYGWIN as supported platforms.

cygwin's handling of fork/exec/terminal-control is (a little) better.  At least
the problems are in different places.

For MVS, I have an impression (comments by people using lynx and xterm) that
Korn Shell's relying as in cygwin on a more/less POSIX layer.

> > I don't believe you'll find it an improvement.
> 
> It would be nice to have the choice... Don't most Linux distro's use 
> KSH93? 

I don't keep track
> 
> I'm sure using a different ksh can lead to incompatibilities.
> 
>  
> > -- 
> > Thomas E. Dickey <dickey at invisible-island.net>
> > http://invisible-island.net
> > ftp://invisible-island.net
> 
> -- 
> John
> 

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey <dickey at invisible-island.net>
http://invisible-island.net
ftp://invisible-island.net

**= Email   4 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:17:43 -0700 (PDT)
From:  James Cannon <cyberspittle at yahoo.com>
Subject:  Re:  Re: Perl 5.8.0 - no progress

It is also a great variable for developers who don't
want to require their customers to reboot to use their
product. It had been decribed earlier in an old EDM/2
article at www.edm2.com.

An added benefit is to have this when starting
applications in a batch file, so that the end result
is a slimmer and cleaner CONFIG.SYS file. :)

--- Edwin Günthner <edgue at web.de> wrote:
> 
> 
> John Poltorak wrote:
> > Under UnixOS/2, it has been suggested that DLLs go
> into /usr/lib, which is
> > where LIBRARY_PATH would point, so maybe
> $ENV{LIBRARY_PATH} should be
> > used...
> 
> I am not sure if that is of any help, but maybe it
> is worth to point
> out the BEGINLIBPATH environment variable on OS/2.
> This variable allows
> you to add directories dynamically to the LIBPATH.
> Thus You dont need
> to change config.sys and reboot when you need
> another directory in
> your LIBPATH.
> 


=====
Sincerely,
James Cannon

Using OS/2 Warp in the beautiful Wine
Country of Northern California!

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**= Email   5 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:25:10 -0700 (PDT)
From:  James Cannon <cyberspittle at yahoo.com>
Subject:  Re:  Korn Shell

Hi John,
--- John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 06:03:38AM -0400, Thomas
> Dickey wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 10:32:42AM +0100, John
> Poltorak wrote:

[snip]

> My major grouse with PDKSH is that it causes
> problems for me when I use 
> paths such as c:\usr\bin, since interprets '\b' as a
> backspace.

Can the how about inserting a "\" in front of bin? So
that it would appear thus:

C:\\usr\\bin

I haven't tried it, but with vi (and other Unixy
tools) their are escape characters  available. Hmmm
note to self: try pdksh soon before inserting foot
into mouth.

[snip]

> > -- 
> > Thomas E. Dickey <dickey at invisible-island.net>
> > http://invisible-island.net
> > ftp://invisible-island.net
> 
> -- 
> John
> 
> 


=====
Sincerely,
James Cannon

Using OS/2 Warp in the beautiful Wine
Country of Northern California!

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

**= Email   6 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:38:44 +0200
From:  Edwin =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FCnthner?= <edgue at web.de>
Subject:  Re:  Re: Perl 5.8.0 - no progress



John Poltorak wrote:
> Under UnixOS/2, it has been suggested that DLLs go into /usr/lib, which is
> where LIBRARY_PATH would point, so maybe $ENV{LIBRARY_PATH} should be
> used...

I am not sure if that is of any help, but maybe it is worth to point
out the BEGINLIBPATH environment variable on OS/2. This variable allows
you to add directories dynamically to the LIBPATH. Thus You dont need
to change config.sys and reboot when you need another directory in
your LIBPATH.

**= Email   7 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:44:50 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 06:58:10PM -0400, Jack Troughton wrote:
> Lyn St George wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:57:08 +0400 (MSD), nick wrote:
> > 
> > It seems that both Mozilla and XFree86 use a dll called XPCOM.DLL.
> > This collision can have 2 results:
> > 1. If XFree is running, Mozilla will not start.
> > 2. If Mozilla is running, invoking 'startx' will reboot your machine:/
> > 
> > I've reported this through Bugzilla, and the answer from Mike 
> > Kaply is, quoting:
> > ===========
> > "There's no way we're fixing this. Call this one an XFree86 bug.
> > 
> > We need XPCOM.DLL.
> > 
> > Michael Kaply
> > IBM Mozilla Advocate
> > Platform Owner - Mozilla for OS/2
> > mkaply at us.ibm.com"
> > ===========
> > 
> > Mozilla is too nice to just ditch. Can anyone think of some 
> > way to run these together?
> 
> "Set beginlibpath" is your friend:)
> 
> Use it in the startx.cmd file to make sure xfree finds the right xpcom.dll.

Beginlibpath can be used to change the search path for DLLs but it 
doesn't do anything to allow you to load different DLLs with the same name 
at the same time.  However, ISTR, there was some new feature introduced 
very recently which does exactly this, but I don't have the specifics 
handy... 
 
> -- 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> * Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *
> * http://consultron.ca                         irc.ecomstation.ca *
> * Laval Qu‚bec Canada                   news://news.consultron.ca *
> -------------------------------------------------------------------


-- 
John



**= Email   8 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:57:06 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:   Less 376



Less v376 has just been released.

You can get more details here:-

http://www.greenwoodsoftware.com/less

Only source is available so far, but I think it built quite easily on OS/2 
last time I tried.

-- 
John


**= Email   9 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:32:42 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:   Korn Shell



The original Korn Shell has been made available as Open Source and is 
available here:-

http://www.kornshell.com/

Does anyone feel like getting this working on OS/2?

I think it would be really important to have this available to us since 
there seem to be a few problems with PDKSH.


-- 
John


**= Email   10 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:48:13 -0500
From:  mikus at bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs)
Subject:  Re:  UnixOS/2 distro

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:39:55 +0100 John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org> wrote:
>
> Here is an update on the sources for the most recent versions of the most
> important apps in Slackware. A few apps have been updated, and a few other
> have been added.

I recognize the amount of effort you have put into maintaining
this list, but this list represents the INPUT to unixos2.

Given the present situation, where OS/2 users obtain apps
individually from unixos2, what I would find most useful is the
addition of an indicator (e.g. directory ID) for those apps
which *have* been ported to OS/2 and are available for OUTPUT
from unixos2.

mikus


**= Email   11 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:32:09 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  Korn Shell

On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 06:03:38AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 10:32:42AM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > The original Korn Shell has been made available as Open Source and is 
> > available here:-
> > 
> > http://www.kornshell.com/
> > 
> > Does anyone feel like getting this working on OS/2?
> > 
> > I think it would be really important to have this available to us since 
> > there seem to be a few problems with PDKSH.
> 
> iirc, the problem with pdksh was not in pdksh itself, but the limitations
> on fork/exec relative to tty control.  

My major grouse with PDKSH is that it causes problems for me when I use 
paths such as c:\usr\bin, since interprets '\b' as a backspace.

> Since Korn Shell has not been ported
> to a non-Unix platform, 

It does mention MVS and CYGWIN as supported platforms.

> I don't believe you'll find it an improvement.

It would be nice to have the choice... Don't most Linux distro's use 
KSH93? 

I'm sure using a different ksh can lead to incompatibilities.

 
> -- 
> Thomas E. Dickey <dickey at invisible-island.net>
> http://invisible-island.net
> ftp://invisible-island.net

-- 
John


**= Email   12 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:22:34 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:   Dialog


It looks like there has been a new release of DIALOG here:-

ftp://invisible-island.net/dialog/dialog-0.9b-20020519.tgz


Anyone tried building it under OS/2?

For anyone who has never heard of it, it provides a handy text based 
menuing system based on NCURSES.

-- 
John



**= Email   13 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:36:51 +0200 (CEST)
From:  "Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Subject:  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:22:17 +0000, Lyn St George wrote:

>It seems that both Mozilla and XFree86 use a dll called XPCOM.DLL.
>This collision can have 2 results:
>1. If XFree is running, Mozilla will not start.
>2. If Mozilla is running, invoking 'startx' will reboot your machine:/

[..]

>Mozilla is too nice to just ditch. Can anyone think of some 
>way to run these together?

Get a recent kernel. Scott Garfinkle has introduced a new feature
called LIBPATHSTRICT. You have to execute SET LIBPATHSTRICT=T in the
session where you want to use it, it does not work in CONFIG.SYS. You
also have to specify the location of the new DLLs with SET
BEGINLIBPATH. "SET BEGINLIBPATH=." won't work as a general setting, but
"SET BEGINLIBPATH=.\." does.

Christian Hennecke


**= Email   14 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:48:42 +0200
From:  Holger Veit <holger.veit at ais.fhg.de>
Subject:  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 07:22:17PM +0000, Lyn St George wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:57:08 +0400 (MSD), nick wrote:
> 
> It seems that both Mozilla and XFree86 use a dll called XPCOM.DLL.

Wrong. XPCOM.DLL is not an XFree86/OS2 DLL.

> This collision can have 2 results:
> 1. If XFree is running, Mozilla will not start.
> 2. If Mozilla is running, invoking 'startx' will reboot your machine:/
> 
> I've reported this through Bugzilla, and the answer from Mike 
> Kaply is, quoting:
> ===========
> "There's no way we're fixing this. Call this one an XFree86 bug.
> 
> We need XPCOM.DLL.
> 
> Michael Kaply
> IBM Mozilla Advocate
> Platform Owner - Mozilla for OS/2
> mkaply at us.ibm.com"

Holger

-- 
Please update your tables to my new e-mail address: 
holger.veit$ais.fhg.de  (replace the '$' with ' at '  -- spam-protection)


**= Email   15 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:33:51 +0200
From:  Kris Steenhaut <kris.steenhaut at hccnet.nl>
Subject:  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2



Christian Hennecke schreef:

>  >way to run these together?
>
> Get a recent kernel. Scott Garfinkle has introduced a new feature
> called LIBPATHSTRICT. You have to execute SET LIBPATHSTRICT=T

What does this new thingy do?


--
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris



**= Email   16 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:39:55 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:   UnixOS/2 distro


Here is an update on the sources for the most recent versions of the most
important apps in Slackware. A few apps have been updated, and a few other
have been added.

Any more suggestions would be welcome.


gawk:     ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gawk/gawk-3.1.1.tar.gz
grep:     ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/grep/grep-2.5.tar.gz
sed:      ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/sed/sed-3.02.tar.gz
patch:    ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/patch/patch-2.5.4.tar.gz
m4:       ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/m4/m4-1.4.tar.gz
gmake:    ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/make/make-3.79.1.tar.gz
gettext:  ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gettext/gettext-0.11.2.tar.gz
fileutls: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/fileutils/fileutils-4.1.tar.gz
file:     ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/file/file-3.38.tar.gz
find:     ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/findutils/findutils-4.1.tar.gz
sh_utils: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/sh-utils/sh-utils-2.0.tar.gz
txtutils: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/textutils/textutils-2.0.tar.gz
autoconf: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/autoconf/autoconf-2.53.tar.gz
automake: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/automake/automake-1.6.2.tar.gz
cpio:     ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/cpio/cpio-2.5.tar.gz
diff:     ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/diffutils/diffutils-2.8.1.tar.gz
bison:    ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/bison/bison-1.35.tar.gz
byacc:    ftp://invisible-island.net/byacc/byacc.tar.gz
bash:     ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/bash/bash-2.05a.tar.gz
bash1:    ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/bash/bash-1.14.7.tar.gz
tcsh:     ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/tcsh/tcsh-6.11.tar.gz
gzip:     ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/mirrors/gnu/gzip/gzip-1.2.4.tar.gz
bzip2:    ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/bzip2/v102/bzip2-1.0.2.tar.gz
less:     http://www.greenwoodsoftware.com/less/less-376.tar.gz
binutils: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/binutils/binutils-2.12.1.tar.bz2
gcc:      ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gcc/gcc-3.1/gcc-3.1.tar.gz
gcc_g77:  ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gcc/gcc-3.1/gcc-g77-3.1.tar.gz
gcc_objc: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gcc/gcc-3.1/gcc-objc-3.1.tar.gz
perl:     http://www.cpan.org/src/stable.tar.gz
python:   ftp://ftp.python.org/pub/www.python.org/ftp/python/2.2.1/Python-2.2.1.tgz
flex:     ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/non-gnu/flex/flex-2.5.4a.tar.gz
ncurses:  ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/ncurses/ncurses-5.2.tar.gz
slang:    ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/slang/v1.4/slang-1.4.5.tar.gz
apache:   http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/httpd-2.0.39.tar.gz
lynx:     ftp://lynx.isc.org/lynx2.8.4/lynx2.8.4.tar.gz
openssl:  http://www.openssl.org/source/openssl-engine-0.9.6d.tar.gz
tin:      ftp://ftp.tin.org/pub/news/clients/tin/v1.5/tin-1.5.12.tar.gz
bind:     ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind/src/8.3.2/bind-src.tar.gz
ftchmail: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/fetchmail-5.9.12.tar.gz
wget:     ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/wget/wget-1.8.2.tar.gz
man:      ftp://ftp.win.tue.nl/pub/linux-local/utils/man/man-1.5j.tar.gz
groff:    ftp://ftp.ffii.org/pub/groff/groff-1.17.2.tar.gz
texinfo:  ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/texinfo/texinfo-4.2.tar.gz
manpages: ftp://ftp.win.tue.nl/pub/linux-local/manpages/man-pages-1.51.tar.gz
rcs:      http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/trinkle/RCS/rcs-5.7.tar.Z
sox:      http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/sox/sox-12.17.3.tar.gz
a2ps:     ftp://ftp.enst.fr/pub/unix/a2ps/a2ps-4.13b.tar.gz
zlib:     ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/zlib/zlib-1.1.4.tar.gz
zip:      ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/src/zip23.tar.gz
unzip:    ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/src/unzip550.tar.gz
jed:      ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/jed/v0.99/jed-B0.99-15.tar.gz
joe:      http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/joe-editor/joe-2.9.8-pre1.tgz
oggutils: http://www.vorbis.com/files/rc3/unix/vorbis-tools-1.0rc3.tar.gz
bitchx:   ftp://ftp.bitchx.org/pub/BitchX/source/ircii-pana-1.0c19.tar.gz
vim:      ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/vim-6.1.tar.bz2
elvis:    ftp://ftp.fh-wedel.de/pub/fh-wedel/staff/herbert/elvis/elvis-2.2g-os2.tar.gz
emacleim: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/leim-21.2.tar.gz
emacsbin: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/emacs-21.2.tar.gz
ghostscr: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ghostscript/ghostscript-7.05.tar.gz
mysql:    http://www.mysql.com/Downloads/MySQL-3.23/mysql-3.23.51.tar.gz
readline: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/readline/readline-4.2a.tar.gz
pine:     ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz
cvs:      ftp://ftp.cvshome.org/pub/cvs-1.11.2/cvs-1.11.2.tar.gz
cdrtools: ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/cdrtools-1.10.tar.gz
cdrdao:   http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cdrdao/cdrdao-1.1.5.src.tar.gz
mktemp:   ftp://ftp.mktemp.org/pub/mktemp/mktemp-1.4.tar.gz
indent:   ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/indent/indent-2.2.8.tar.gz
sendmail: ftp://ftp.sendmail.org/pub/sendmail/sendmail.8.12.4.tar.gz
ispell:   http://fmg-www.cs.ucla.edu/geoff/tars/ispell-3.2.06.tar.gz
mutt:     ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/mutt-1.2.5.1.tar.gz
procmail: ftp://ftp.procmail.net/pub/procmail/procmail-3.22.tar.gz
samba:    ftp://ftp.samba.org/pub/samba/samba-2.2.5.tar.gz
ytalk:    http://www.iagora.com/~espel/ytalk/ytalk-3.1.1.tar.gz
zsh:      ftp://ftp.zsh.org/zsh/zsh-4.0.4.tar.gz
sc:       ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/apps/financial/spreadsheet/sc-7.15.tar.gz	
metamail: ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/unix/mail/metamail/mm2.7.tar.Z
jpeg6:    ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/jpeg/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz
dialog:   ftp://invisible-island.net/dialog/dialog.tar.gz
enscript: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/enscript/enscript-1.6.1.tar.gz



-- 
John



**= Email   17 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:51:27 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  Korn Shell

On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 07:25:10AM -0700, James Cannon wrote:
> Hi John,
> --- John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 06:03:38AM -0400, Thomas
> > Dickey wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 10:32:42AM +0100, John
> > Poltorak wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > My major grouse with PDKSH is that it causes
> > problems for me when I use 
> > paths such as c:\usr\bin, since interprets '\b' as a
> > backspace.
> 
> Can the how about inserting a "\" in front of bin? So
> that it would appear thus:
> 
> C:\\usr\\bin

That's not the point. I'm fed up of workrounds. Bash works fine with 
c:\usr\bin. I try and use bash as my sh most of the time, but I still need 
PDKSH when trying to build PERL.

What I would like to have is some routine which would abort with an error 
msg telling me I'm using the wrong version of sh, since I sometimes swap 
them round..


> =====
> Sincerely,
> James Cannon


-- 
John



**= Email   18 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:22:23 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:   Perl 5.8.0 Release Candidate 2


The 5.8.0 RC2 is now available at

        http://mirrors.kernel.org/cpan/src/perl-5.8.0-RC2.tgz
        http://cpan.valueclick.com/src/perl-5.8.0-RC2.tgz
        ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/CPAN/src/perl-5.8.0-RC2.tgz
        ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/CPAN/src/perl-5.8.0-RC2.tgz


Give it a try!

See if you can be the first person to unravel the mystery of the 
malloc vs. Perl_malloc problem.


-- 
John



**= Email   19 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:08:32 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:   Perl5.def

What exactly is Perl5.def and how do I create it?

It looks like my Perl_malloc v. malloc problem is due to differences in 
Perl5.def, but I'm not sure how to stop the build at the point Perl5.def 
is created, but it would help to simplify matters... Don't suppose there 
is any way to single step through a Makefile...


Can I simply run? :-

Make perl5.def


This appears to be the section of the Makefile where it is created:-


perl5.def: $(MINIPERLEXP) makedef.pl config.sh $(SYM) $(SYMH) miniperl.map
    ./$(MINIPERLEXP) makedef.pl PLATFORM=os2 -DPERL_DLL=$(PERL_DLL) > perl.exp.tmp
    sh mv-if-diff perl.exp.tmp perl5.def


Is there anything there I should look at?


-- 
John



**= Email   20 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:25:44 +0200 (CEST)
From:  "Christian Hennecke" <christian.hennecke at ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Subject:  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:33:51 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>> Get a recent kernel. Scott Garfinkle has introduced a new feature
>> called LIBPATHSTRICT. You have to execute SET LIBPATHSTRICT=T
>
>What does this new thingy do?

It allow to load several different versions of DLLs with the same name.

Christian Hennecke


**= Email   21 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:29:50 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  Perl5.def

On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 05:08:32PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
> What exactly is Perl5.def and how do I create it?
> 
> It looks like my Perl_malloc v. malloc problem is due to differences in 
> Perl5.def, but I'm not sure how to stop the build at the point Perl5.def 
> is created, but it would help to simplify matters... Don't suppose there 
> is any way to single step through a Makefile...
> 
> 
> Can I simply run? :-
> 
> Make perl5.def
> 
> 
> This appears to be the section of the Makefile where it is created:-
> 
> 
> perl5.def: $(MINIPERLEXP) makedef.pl config.sh $(SYM) $(SYMH) miniperl.map


makedef.pl appears to be the culprit....


The file from 5.7.3 includes this at line 12:-

my $CCTYPE;

my %bincompat5005 =
      (
       Perl_call_atexit		=>	"perl_atexit",
       Perl_eval_sv		=>	"perl_eval_sv",
       Perl_eval_pv		=>	"perl_eval_pv",
       Perl_call_argv		=>	"perl_call_argv",
       Perl_call_method		=>	"perl_call_method",
       Perl_call_pv		=>	"perl_call_pv",
       Perl_call_sv		=>	"perl_call_sv",
       Perl_get_av		=>	"perl_get_av",
       Perl_get_cv		=>	"perl_get_cv",
       Perl_get_hv		=>	"perl_get_hv",
       Perl_get_sv		=>	"perl_get_sv",
       Perl_init_i18nl10n	=>	"perl_init_i18nl10n",
       Perl_init_i18nl14n	=>	"perl_init_i18nl14n",
       Perl_new_collate		=>	"perl_new_collate",
       Perl_new_ctype		=>	"perl_new_ctype",
       Perl_new_numeric		=>	"perl_new_numeric",
       Perl_require_pv		=>	"perl_require_pv",
       Perl_safesyscalloc	=>	"Perl_safecalloc",
       Perl_safesysfree		=>	"Perl_safefree",
       Perl_safesysmalloc	=>	"Perl_safemalloc",
       Perl_safesysrealloc	=>	"Perl_saferealloc",
       Perl_set_numeric_local	=>	"perl_set_numeric_local",
       Perl_set_numeric_standard  =>	"perl_set_numeric_standard",
       Perl_malloc		=>	"malloc",
       Perl_mfree		=>	"free",
       Perl_realloc		=>	"realloc",
       Perl_calloc		=>	"calloc",
      );

my $bincompat5005 = join("|", keys %bincompat5005);

while ( at ARGV) {

...but this section is completely missing in 5.8.0.


What needs to be done?


-- 
John


**= Email   22 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:50:40 +1000 (EST)
From:  "Brian Havard" <brianh at kheldar.apana.org.au>
Subject:  Re:  libtool and -version-info

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:21:39 +0200, Andreas Buening wrote:

>John Poltorak wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> I would like to put together a LIBTOOL package, which is currently
>> missing from UnixOS/2, but don't know anything about it.
>
>It's a set of (slow) shell scripts that is supposed to
>handle building of static and dynamic libraries on all
>platforms. In principle it should be possible to write
>libtool.cmd in REXX that handles all necessary OS/2 stuff.

I wrote a libtool replacement for building Apache v2.0 which might be of
use to others. It can build OS/2 DLLs (something the real libtool is pretty
useless at) and is MUCH faster because it's plain C code rather than an
enormous shell script. It can also operate in OMF or A.OUT mode with a
simple #define change.

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/apr/build/aplibtool.c?rev=HEAD

-- 
 ______________________________________________________________________________
 |  Brian Havard                 |  "He is not the messiah!                   |
 |  brianh at kheldar.apana.org.au  |  He's a very naughty boy!" - Life of Brian |
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**= Email   23 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:53:37 -0700
From:  "paul hartman" <biz at arabia.com>
Subject:   GnuPG 1.0.7

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There's a port of GnuPG 1.0.7, as well as a REXX Entropy Gathering
Daemonthat it utilizes, at:

http://math.berkeley.edu/~roconnor/gnupg/

I believe this is newer than the version on hobbes & unixos2.com (and
those didn't have an EGD?). He also has a few other interesting things
at his site.

regards,
paul


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There's a port of GnuPG 1.0.7, as well as a REXX Entropy Gathering Daemonthat it utilizes, at:<br>
<br>
http://math.berkeley.edu/~roconnor/gnupg/<br>
<br>
I believe this is newer than the version on hobbes & unixos2.com (and those didn't have an EGD?). He also has a few other interesting things at his site.<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
paul<br>

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**= Email   24 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:14:06 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  UnixOS/2 distro

On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 10:48:13AM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:39:55 +0100 John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org> wrote:
> >
> > Here is an update on the sources for the most recent versions of the most
> > important apps in Slackware. A few apps have been updated, and a few other
> > have been added.
> 
> I recognize the amount of effort you have put into maintaining
> this list, but this list represents the INPUT to unixos2.
> 
> Given the present situation, where OS/2 users obtain apps
> individually from unixos2, what I would find most useful is the
> addition of an indicator (e.g. directory ID) for those apps
> which *have* been ported to OS/2 and are available for OUTPUT
> from unixos2.

All of the the apps in the list have already been ported to OS/2, although 
in many instances that port is backlevelled. My hope is that the list may 
encourage someone to bring an OS/2 port uptodate.

To become familiar with the composition of the Slackware distro you should 
grab all the disk*1 files from each series of apps. There's probably a 
simple way of doing this using WGET along the lines of:-

wget -r ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-8.0/slakware/disk*

although the exact syntax escapes me at the moment...

Can anyone else oblige?
 
At some point I'll try to provide a list of the current UnixOS/2 versions 
of these apps so that everyone can see how uptodate they are.


> mikus
> 


-- 
John


**= Email   25 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:38:40 +0000
From:  "Lyn St George" <lyn at zolotek.net>
Subject:  Re:  Mozilla collision with XFree86/OS2

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:48:42 +0200, Holger Veit wrote:

>On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 07:22:17PM +0000, Lyn St George wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:57:08 +0400 (MSD), nick wrote:
>> 
>> It seems that both Mozilla and XFree86 use a dll called XPCOM.DLL.
>
>Wrong. XPCOM.DLL is not an XFree86/OS2 DLL.

So I've discovered. I've just had to rebuild EMX and am half 
way through rebuilding the GNU env, now it seems I will have 
to rebuild XFree86 as well:/ Everything used to work, and 
now nothing works ....

-
Cheers
Lyn St George
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+ http://www.zolotek.net .. eCommerce hosting, consulting
+ http://www.os2docs.org .. some 'How To' stuff ...
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


**= Email   26 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:53:43 +0100
From:  John Poltorak <jp at eyup.org>
Subject:  Re:  Perl 5.8.0 Release Candidate 2

On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 04:22:23PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> The 5.8.0 RC2 is now available at
> 
>         http://mirrors.kernel.org/cpan/src/perl-5.8.0-RC2.tgz
>         http://cpan.valueclick.com/src/perl-5.8.0-RC2.tgz
>         ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/CPAN/src/perl-5.8.0-RC2.tgz
>         ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/CPAN/src/perl-5.8.0-RC2.tgz
> 
> 
> Give it a try!


Here's what I get after building and running t/harness:-



Failed 13/722 test scripts, 98.20% okay. 31/64746 subtests failed, 99.95% okay.
Failed Test                     Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
../ext/DB_File/t/db-btree.t        0    15    ??   ??       %  ??
../ext/DB_File/t/db-hash.t         0    15    ??   ??       %  ??
../ext/DB_File/t/db-recno.t        0    15    ??   ??       %  ??
../lib/AnyDBM_File.t               0    15    12   12 100.00%  1-12
../lib/ExtUtils/t/Mkbootstrap.t    1   256    18    1   5.56%  8
../lib/ExtUtils/t/Packlist.t       1   256    34    1   2.94%  17
../lib/ExtUtils/t/basic.t          1   256    17    1   5.88%  14
../lib/Memoize/t/errors.t          0    15    11    8  72.73%  4-11
../lib/Memoize/t/tie.t             0    15    ??   ??       %  ??
lib/os2_process.t                  2   512   227    2   0.88%  174 209
lib/os2_process_kid.t                        227    2   0.88%  174 209
lib/rx_cmprt.t                   255 65280    18    3  16.67%  16-18
run/fresh_perl.t                              95    1   1.05%  91
64 tests and 559 subtests skipped.



 
> See if you can be the first person to unravel the mystery of the 
> malloc vs. Perl_malloc problem.

If this gets sorted out, I'd like to think that at least four of the fails 
will disappear... 



-- 
John



**= Email   27 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:55:23 +0900
From:  Masaru Nomiya <nomiya at ttmy.ne.jp>
Subject:   emacs-20.7-KIT1.9.tgz has moved

Hello,

A patch kit to build Emacs 20.7 for OS/2 has moved.
Now, You can download;

  http://www21.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/cf7/uri/emacs-20.7-KIT1.9.tgz

Thanks, Nishimura-San.

Regards,

---
  Masaru Nomiya        mail-to: nomiya at ttmy.ne.jp

   "No Windows, no gains!" ..... "Why, I am wrong?"
        
                                        -- Bill --

**= Email   28 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:58:56 -0400
From:  Jack Troughton <jake at consultron.ca>
Subject:  Re:  GnuPG 1.0.7

paul hartman wrote:
> There's a port of GnuPG 1.0.7, as well as a REXX Entropy Gathering 
> Daemonthat it utilizes, at:
> 
> http://math.berkeley.edu/~roconnor/gnupg/
> 
> I believe this is newer than the version on hobbes & unixos2.com (and 
> those didn't have an EGD?). He also has a few other interesting things 
> at his site.

I've got it... it looks quite good to me.

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**= Email   29 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:31:51 -0800
From:  "Dave and Natalie" <dave_yeo at mindlink.bc.ca>
Subject:  Re:  Gettext v0.11.2

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:35:02 +0100, John Poltorak wrote:

>
>There's a recent version of gettext here:-
>
>ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gettext/gettext-0.11.2.tar.gz
>
>Has anyone tried building this?
>
>
>This is a very important app because it includes the source for INTL.DLL 
>which is one of the most common DLL's used in OS/2 ports. I would like to 
>incorporate this version into UnixOS/2.
>
>I've had lots of problems in the past and would like to get this app built 
>as simply as possible. If anyone has any tips I would like to hear them.

This builds here fine. Have to run make twice due to
make: *** No rule to make target `out/release/intl.a', needed by `all'.  Stop.

Interestingly when I just retried the build I started to get errors like this
emximp -o out/release/intl.a out/release/intl.def
emximp: String expected (line 2 of out/release/intl.def)
make: *** [out/release/intl.a] Error 2

fixing this caused an error at line 5 (didn't like ./)
After racking my brain about what had changed and trying various things like different versions of gcc and make I remembered that I added SET MAKESHELL=/bin/sh to config.sys.
I entered SET MAKESHELL= at the prompt did a make clean, make, make and the build finished error free.
/bin/sh is 663 bytes and dated 11-09-97 and is not on the path. ( I think it is from an old bash port)
/usr/bin/sh is 163844 bytes and dated 02-01-02 and is on the path. (I think this is from Mr Sawataishi's bash port)
Anyways I've changed the set MAKESHELL to /usr/bin/sh and the compile still ends with
emximp -o out/release/intl.a out/release/intl.def
emximp: String expected (line 2 of out/release/intl.def)
So I have to have MAKESHELL empty so make is using the shell specified in the makefile
# Use CMD.EXE as shell since its way faster
SHELL = $(COMSPEC)
Dave


**= Email   30 ==========================**

Date:  Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:13:21 +0200
From:  Andreas Buening <andreas.buening at nexgo.de>
Subject:  Re:  Can't make automake

John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 07:51:00PM -0500, paul-biz wrote:
> > When I try to configure automake 1.6.2 or 1.5, it tells me I don't have
> > perl installed (I do). If i type 'which perl' immediately after the
> > error, it tells me where my perl is (d:\emx\bin\perl.exe). I don't know
> > what I'm doing wrong... It's perl 5.004_55.  Anybody else have any
> > better luck?
> 
> Do you get something like this? :-
> 
> [C:\eval\automake\automake-1.6.2]sh configure
> configure.: creating cache /dev/null
> checking for a BSD-compatible install... lib/install-sh -c
> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> checking for gawk... no
> checking for mawk... no
> checking for nawk... no
> checking for awk... no
> checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
> checking for perl... no
> configure.: error: perl not found
> 
> I suspect you need to rebuild configure, using autoconf...

That error message occurrs if you haven't set
ac_executable_extensions=".exe"

[snip]

Nevertheless. The current automake 1.6.2 has a small bug:
it uses ln. I'll upload a fixed version soon.

bye,
Andreas

-- 
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One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Redmond where the Shadows lie.