From: UnixOS2 Archive To: "UnixOS2 Archive" Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 04:25:57 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [UnixOS2_Archive] No. 216 ************************************************** Wednesday 15 May 2002 Number 216 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: svgalib ? : Richard Steiner 2 Re: svgalib ? : James Cannon 3 Re: svgalib ? : James Cannon 4 Re: svgalib ? : James Cannon 5 Re: svgalib ? : John Poltorak 6 Re: svgalib ? : Gerhard Arnecke" 7 Re: svgalib ? : Gerhard Arnecke" 8 Re: Perl v5.8 : John Poltorak 9 Re: svgalib ? : Steve Wendt 10 Re: svgalib ? : Steve Wendt 11 Re: Perl v5.8 : Stefan Neis 12 Re: New Openssh build : csaba.raduly at sophos.com 13 Re: Perl v5.8 : Henry Sobotka 14 New Openssh build : nick" 15 Re: Perl v5.8 : John Poltorak 16 Re: svgalib ? : Steve Wendt" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 05:53:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Richard Steiner Subject: Re: svgalib ? On Thu, 16 May 2002, Gerhard Arnecke wrote: > Full screen viewer for GIF.PNG,JPEG etc.: > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bitware/ I thought Galleria was a PM application? -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Eden Prairie, MN Written online using pine 3.96 for OS/2! The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then. **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 07:38:52 -0700 (PDT) From: James Cannon Subject: Re: svgalib ? Hi Steve, Thanks. I already have that. I was hoping to use something in a more tutorial approach. The book for using MGL is more an API book.Nothing on how to get started, progressing through various things, and a final project at the end (my style of learning). --- Steve Wendt wrote: > On Wed, 15 May 2002, James Cannon wrote: > > > I recently picked up "linux graphics programming > with > > svgalib". Is there a port? I didn't see one in the > > ports section of unixos2.com. I know there is a > > 1997-era vesa and svga lib for emx, but would > prefer > > svgalib is mostly dead, even on Linux. If you want > to look at something > that does fullscreen graphics on OS/2 as well as > other platforms, check > out MGL. > > ===== Sincerely, James Cannon Using OS/2 Warp in the beautiful Wine Country of Northern California! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 07:40:47 -0700 (PDT) From: James Cannon Subject: Re: svgalib ? Maybe that might be my first project, as it is in my book. --- Richard Steiner wrote: > Here in list.os2-unix, Steve Wendt > > spake unto us, saying: > > >On Wed, 15 May 2002, James Cannon wrote: > > > >> I recently picked up "linux graphics programming > with > >> svgalib". Is there a port? I didn't see one in > the > >> ports section of unixos2.com. I know there is a > >> 1997-era vesa and svga lib for emx, but would [SNIP] > >svgalib is mostly dead, even on Linux. > > Which is sad. I use zgv a LOT under Linux for > graphics viewing. [SNIP] > Has anyone created a reliable fullscreen graphics > viewer (GIF/JPG/PNG) > for OS/2 anywhere? I've searched all of my sources > (which is quite a > few) with no luck... > -- > -Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner > >>>---> Eden Prairie, MN > OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + > FreeBSD + DOS + PC/GEOS > + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist > Heaven! :-) > Murphy's Law is recursive. Washing your car to > make it rain doesn't work. ===== Sincerely, James Cannon Using OS/2 Warp in the beautiful Wine Country of Northern California! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 07:51:34 -0700 (PDT) From: James Cannon Subject: Re: svgalib ? I think the OS2 svgaki19 was based on an earlier version, as in my book it mentions the history of svgalib as two items (svgalib & vesa set) being brought together. I would also like to know about any MGL software on Linux. --- John Poltorak wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 06:12:50PM -0700, Steve > Wendt wrote: > > On Wed, 15 May 2002, James Cannon wrote: > > > > > I recently picked up "linux graphics programming > with > > > svgalib". Is there a port? I didn't see one in > the > > > ports section of unixos2.com. I know there is a > > > 1997-era vesa and svga lib for emx, but would > prefer > > > > svgalib is mostly dead, even on Linux. > > That may be the case, but is there any OS/2 > equivalent at all? > > I would expect that a lot of software has already > been developed using > SVGALIB, and some of it may be useful, so it would > be nice to have it > available for OS/2 as well. > > Is SVGAKT19 based on SVGALIB? > > > If you want to look at something > > that does fullscreen graphics on OS/2 as well as > other platforms, check > > out MGL. > > > Are there any Linux programs which use MGL? > > -- > John > > ===== Sincerely, James Cannon Using OS/2 Warp in the beautiful Wine Country of Northern California! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:10:29 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: svgalib ? On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 06:12:50PM -0700, Steve Wendt wrote: > On Wed, 15 May 2002, James Cannon wrote: > > > I recently picked up "linux graphics programming with > > svgalib". Is there a port? I didn't see one in the > > ports section of unixos2.com. I know there is a > > 1997-era vesa and svga lib for emx, but would prefer > > svgalib is mostly dead, even on Linux. That may be the case, but is there any OS/2 equivalent at all? I would expect that a lot of software has already been developed using SVGALIB, and some of it may be useful, so it would be nice to have it available for OS/2 as well. Is SVGAKT19 based on SVGALIB? > If you want to look at something > that does fullscreen graphics on OS/2 as well as other platforms, check > out MGL. Are there any Linux programs which use MGL? -- John **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:20:17 +0100 (MEZ) From: "Gerhard Arnecke" Subject: Re: svgalib ? Full screen viewer for GIF.PNG,JPEG etc.: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bitware/ **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:14:51 +0100 (MEZ) From: "Gerhard Arnecke" Subject: Re: svgalib ? Excuse me that I thought that UNIXO2 is any OS/2 forum... **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 13:53:37 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: Perl v5.8 On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 05:37:43PM -0400, Henry Sobotka wrote: > Plus there's reason to believe a > pgcc build (already clean except for the tr thing) might outperform a > 3.x one, Does this indicate a problem with gcc v3.+? It would be nice to be able to make a definite move to a particular version. I'm still using v2.8.1 and don't really want to install v2.9.5 now that v3.x is available. > > h~ -- John **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:48:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Wendt Subject: Re: svgalib ? On Thu, 16 May 2002, John Poltorak wrote: > Is SVGAKT19 based on SVGALIB? I don't think so. I think that was the precursor to MGL. > Are there any Linux programs which use MGL? Other than the example programs, I don't know of anything publicly available... SDL seems to be the preference right now. **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:49:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Wendt Subject: Re: svgalib ? On Thu, 16 May 2002, James Cannon wrote: > using MGL is more an API book.Nothing on how to get > started, progressing through various things, and a > final project at the end (my style of learning). I think there is an online tutorial? **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:21:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Neis Subject: Re: Perl v5.8 On Thu, 16 May 2002, John Poltorak wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 05:37:43PM -0400, Henry Sobotka wrote: > > > Plus there's reason to believe a > > pgcc build (already clean except for the tr thing) might outperform a > > 3.x one, > > Does this indicate a problem with gcc v3.+? Have a look at http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2002-04/msg01168.html and form your own opinion .... Regards, Stefan -- Micro$oft is not an answer. It is a question. The answer is 'no'. **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:23:46 +0100 From: csaba.raduly at sophos.com Subject: Re: New Openssh build On 16/05/2002 16:30:15 nick wrote: >Hi! > >There are new openssh build at devcenter.os2.ru/openssh/ > Faithfully Yours, Nick > Your email looked like a poem by Maiakovski: Lenin lived, Lenin lives, Lenin will live on (Or a printer with no carriage-returns :-) -- Csaba Ráduly, Software Engineer Sophos Anti-Virus email: csaba.raduly at sophos.com http://www.sophos.com US Support: +1 888 SOPHOS 9 UK Support: +44 1235 559933 **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:56:15 -0400 From: Henry Sobotka Subject: Re: Perl v5.8 John Poltorak wrote: > > What pager is used on your system? [cmd /c more] > Please give a full path name, starting with slash. > What pager is used on your system? [cmd /c more] > Please give a full path name, starting with slash. > What pager is used on your system? [cmd /c more] > Please give a full path name, starting with slash. > > Any idea what is casing this? Haven't seen that happen before. Are you using the Perl sh.exe? h~ **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 19:30:15 +0400 (MSD) From: "nick" Subject: New Openssh build Hi! There are new openssh build at devcenter.os2.ru/openssh/ Faithfully Yours, Nick **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 19:31:36 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: Perl v5.8 On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 05:37:43PM -0400, Henry Sobotka wrote: > John Poltorak wrote: > > > > Is there any reason why this couldn't be included inthe normal code? > > I was surprised to find it hadn't been, whereas the other patch > involving lib-something-or-other is no longer necessary. I think it will be included in the next day or so... > > Is there any chance you could forward the errors to the Perl maintainers? > > It would be nice to get a clean build straight out of the box when 5.8.0 > > comes out. > > The problem is OS/2-specific, so error-reporting won't do any good, I get an OS/2 specific problem while building which results in a continuous loop like so:- Checking if your c:/usr/bin/make program sets $(MAKE)... mode_t found. found. found. We'll include to get va_dcl definition. It seems that you don't need va_copy(). size_t found. What pager is used on your system? [cmd /c more] Please give a full path name, starting with slash. What pager is used on your system? [cmd /c more] Please give a full path name, starting with slash. What pager is used on your system? [cmd /c more] Please give a full path name, starting with slash. Any idea what is casing this? I tried setting $PAGER but it didn't make any difference. It seems to be coming from this part of Configure:- : locate the preferred pager for this system case "$pager" in '') dflt='' case "$pg" in /*) dflt=$pg;; [a-zA-Z]:/*) dflt=$pg;; esac case "$more" in /*) dflt=$more;; [a-zA-Z]:/*) dflt=$more;; esac case "$less" in /*) dflt=$less;; [a-zA-Z]:/*) dflt=$less;; esac case "$dflt" in '') dflt=/usr/ucb/more;; esac ;; *) dflt="$pager";; esac echo " " fn=f/ rp='What pager is used on your system?' . ./getfile pager="$ans" but I can't understand how it would get in a loop like this... > h~ -- John **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 23:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steve Wendt" Subject: Re: svgalib ? On Fri, 17 May 2002 01:38:46 -0400 (EDT), Marty wrote: >> > Is SVGAKT19 based on SVGALIB? >> >> I don't think so. I think that was the precursor to MGL. > >Not quite. UniVBE + UniLIB (used in Warcraft, SimCity 2K, and other games of >that era) were the precursors to MGL. SVGALib was an independent Right, svgalib is different. But svgakit? ----------- "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato (427-347 B.C.)