From: UnixOS2 Archive To: "UnixOS2 Archive" Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 04:23:31 EST-10EDT,10,-1,0,7200,3,-1,0,7200,3600 Subject: [UnixOS2_Archive] No. 188 ************************************************** Sunday 07 April 2002 Number 188 ************************************************** Subjects for today 1 Re: VPC/2 : Mikkel C. Simonsen" 2 Re: Hi folks! : Dave Saville" 3 Re: OpenOffice : Brian Smith" 4 Re: PHP-Nuke : Ted Sikora 5 Re: OpenOffice : Brian Smith" 6 Re: PHP-Nuke : csaba.raduly at sophos.com 7 VPC/2 and Linux : John Poltorak 8 New Mailman : John Poltorak 9 OpenOffice : John Poltorak 10 Re: Hi folks! : Jack Troughton 11 Re: VPC/2 and Linux : Jack Troughton 12 Re: OpenOffice : Jack Troughton 13 Re: OpenOffice : John Poltorak 14 Re: OpenOffice : Henry Sobotka 15 Re: VPC/2 and Linux : Adrian Gschwend" 16 Re: OpenOffice : Stefan Neis 17 Re: Need some help builing GETTEXT : Andrew Zabolotny" 18 Re: OpenOffice : Pete Milne 19 Re: VPC/2 and Linux : Mikkel C. Simonsen" 20 Re: OpenOffice : John Poltorak 21 Re: Hi folks! : Mikkel C. Simonsen" 22 Re: OpenOffice : John Poltorak 23 Re: OpenOffice : Peter Jespersen" **= Email 1 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 02:29:03 +0100 From: "Mikkel C. Simonsen" Subject: Re: VPC/2 Ted Sikora wrote: > > I just emailed Connectix to see if they will be offering a trialware > version of OS/2. (I hope so!) Pretty stiff price to pay if it does not > work well. They have 45-day trials for Win and Mac. Shouldn't you be e-mailing Innotek conc. the OS/2 version? Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen > -- > Ted **= Email 2 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 07:31:59 +0100 (BST) From: "Dave Saville" Subject: Re: Hi folks! On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 15:28:52 +0100, Mikkel C. Simonsen wrote: >Jack Troughton wrote: >> >> > If you (or somebody else) need a PM zone-file editor let me know... >> >> Sure... what's a zone file editor? There is also one that will construct the needed files from your hosts file - Available from the oriley perl site. I will look up the URL if anyone needs it - don't have it to have right now. -- Regards Dave Saville Please note new email address dave.saville at ntlworld.com **= Email 3 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:06:30 -0500 From: "Brian Smith" Subject: Re: OpenOffice On Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:17:27 +0100, John Poltorak wrote: > >Does anyone know if anyone has attempted to build OpenOffice on OS/2? > >I know this has been mentioned before but ISTR that we didn't have the >required tools on OS/2. Does the availability of gcc 3.0.3 change >anything? I have built a very old version and am working to get the newest version building. I used pgcc for the old version... and am using 3.0 for the new version. But some of my time is being consumed by the InJoy beta test that I am now managing. Brian **= Email 4 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:30:51 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Subject: Re: PHP-Nuke csaba.raduly at sophos.com wrote: > > On 05/04/2002 17:10:53 owner-os2-unix wrote: > > >On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:13:57 +0000, John Poltorak wrote: > > > >>Has anyone used it? Is it worth looking at? > > > >It's a forum-like software for all kind of portals. Just check the > >homepage and you will exactly see what it can do :-) > > > >But I guess phpnuke contains more bugs than any other php based > >website. They disregard almost every rule of php security people should > >take care of if the write php code :-))) > > > >If you check the Bugtraq Archive you will find tons of exploits for > >phpnuke, almost one bug per week ;-) > >I wouldn't recommend it that much because of this > > > > There's a lengthy thread over at the Apache/OS2 mailinglist, > about a PHP-Nuke site being "hacked" (a new index.html > was uploaded). > Nuke uses 0 byte index.html pages in all directories. .php are the default pages. They have a bad habit of recommending 777 permissions on all files. If you make it rw-r-r it should be no problem. Most people leave it as is. I would think it's the server's OS or Apache exploit that is responsible. -- Ted Sikora tsikora at ntplx.net **= Email 5 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:32:06 -0500 From: "Brian Smith" Subject: Re: OpenOffice On Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:16:44 +0100, John Poltorak wrote: >Is there anything anyone can do to assist? Well there is already someone I am "working" with... but managing this beast is a problem... getting my changes to him is incredibly difficult because of the size and the number of changes that were necessary. If I can get my changes into the OO CVS things would be much easier because then I wouldn't have to deal with merging myself. Anyway it is a very complex thing... and I am not sure what the best solution would be. If anyone has any suggestions for what I can do in the interrim between getting the OS/2 changes into the CVS... please let me know. Brian **= Email 6 ==========================** Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:01:47 +0100 From: csaba.raduly at sophos.com Subject: Re: PHP-Nuke On 05/04/2002 17:10:53 owner-os2-unix wrote: >On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:13:57 +0000, John Poltorak wrote: > >>Has anyone used it? Is it worth looking at? > >It's a forum-like software for all kind of portals. Just check the >homepage and you will exactly see what it can do :-) > >But I guess phpnuke contains more bugs than any other php based >website. They disregard almost every rule of php security people should >take care of if the write php code :-))) > >If you check the Bugtraq Archive you will find tons of exploits for >phpnuke, almost one bug per week ;-) >I wouldn't recommend it that much because of this > There's a lengthy thread over at the Apache/OS2 mailinglist, about a PHP-Nuke site being "hacked" (a new index.html was uploaded). -- Csaba Ráduly, Software Engineer Sophos Anti-Virus email: csaba.raduly at sophos.com http://www.sophos.com US Support: +1 888 SOPHOS 9 UK Support: +44 1235 559933 **= Email 7 ==========================** Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:03:04 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: VPC/2 and Linux Does anyone know if I can run Linux as a guest OS under VPC/2 ? -- John **= Email 8 ==========================** Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:11:03 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: New Mailman Mailman has recently been updated to v2.0.9. It's available here:- ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/mailman/mailman-2.0.9.tgz Has anyone got it working under OS/2 yet? For anyone who doesn't know Mailman is a Python based appliction... Mailman, the GNU Mailing List Manager Mailman is software to help manage electronic mail discussion lists, much like Majordomo or Smartmail. Mailman gives each mailing list a unique web page and allows users to subscribe, unsubscribe, and change their account options over the web. Even the list manager can administer his or her list entirely via the web. Mailman has most of the features that people want in a mailing list management system, including built-in archiving, mail-to-news gateways, spam filters, bounce detection, digest delivery, and so on. Further details are available from:- http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html -- John **= Email 9 ==========================** Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:17:27 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: OpenOffice Does anyone know if anyone has attempted to build OpenOffice on OS/2? I know this has been mentioned before but ISTR that we didn't have the required tools on OS/2. Does the availability of gcc 3.0.3 change anything? What do we need to be able to build it? -- John **= Email 10 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:33:39 -0400 From: Jack Troughton Subject: Re: Hi folks! Dave Saville wrote: > On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 15:28:52 +0100, Mikkel C. Simonsen wrote: > > >>Jack Troughton wrote: >> >>>>If you (or somebody else) need a PM zone-file editor let me know... >>> >>>Sure... what's a zone file editor? >> > There is also one that will construct the needed files from your > hosts file - Available from the oriley perl site. I will look up the > URL if anyone needs it - don't have it to have right now. That's ok, I've got it going. It was much easier than I had first feared. Actually, after doing some research, the variety of name server solutions available is actually quite good. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- * Jack Troughton jake at jakesplace.dhs.org * * http://jakesplace.dhs.org ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org * * Montréal PQ Canada news://jakesplace.dhs.org * ------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 11 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:35:19 -0400 From: Jack Troughton Subject: Re: VPC/2 and Linux John Poltorak wrote: > > Does anyone know if I can run Linux as a guest OS under VPC/2 ? AFAIK, yes. The only one that's problematic is Be. Regards, Jack -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- * Jack Troughton jake at jakesplace.dhs.org * * http://jakesplace.dhs.org ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org * * Montréal PQ Canada news://jakesplace.dhs.org * ------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 12 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:37:23 -0400 From: Jack Troughton Subject: Re: OpenOffice John Poltorak wrote: > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:57:59AM +0200, Stefan Neis wrote: > >>On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, John Poltorak wrote: >> >> >>>Does anyone know if anyone has attempted to build OpenOffice on OS/2? >> >> >>AFAIK, someone tried running the Windows version via Odin rather >>successfully. >> >> >>>I know this has been mentioned before but ISTR that we didn't have the >>>required tools on OS/2. Does the availability of gcc 3.0.3 change >>>anything? >> >>Well, the entire GUI stuff was essentially based on VAC++ for OS/2, so >>gcc releases don't really matter. But I don't know if the OS/2 specific >>part of GUI code was ever released to the public... >> >> >>>What do we need to be able to build it? >> >>First of all, their GUI toolkit would have made to work on OS/2... > > According to the Build FAQ:- > > http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/build_faq.html > > For OS/2, HP/UX and other platforms previously supported, the source > is available but has not been built. > > Wonder if anyone has tried.... ISTR reading that a group in Russia had tried... they said that getting it up and going was going to be a HUGE job. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- * Jack Troughton jake at jakesplace.dhs.org * * http://jakesplace.dhs.org ftp://jakesplace.dhs.org * * Montréal PQ Canada news://jakesplace.dhs.org * ------------------------------------------------------------------- **= Email 13 ==========================** Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 11:07:17 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: OpenOffice On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:57:59AM +0200, Stefan Neis wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, John Poltorak wrote: > > > Does anyone know if anyone has attempted to build OpenOffice on OS/2? > > > AFAIK, someone tried running the Windows version via Odin rather > successfully. > > > I know this has been mentioned before but ISTR that we didn't have the > > required tools on OS/2. Does the availability of gcc 3.0.3 change > > anything? > > Well, the entire GUI stuff was essentially based on VAC++ for OS/2, so > gcc releases don't really matter. But I don't know if the OS/2 specific > part of GUI code was ever released to the public... > > > What do we need to be able to build it? > > First of all, their GUI toolkit would have made to work on OS/2... According to the Build FAQ:- http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/build_faq.html For OS/2, HP/UX and other platforms previously supported, the source is available but has not been built. Wonder if anyone has tried.... > Regards, > Stefan -- John **= Email 14 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 11:24:58 -0400 From: Henry Sobotka Subject: Re: OpenOffice Brian Smith wrote: > > Well there is already someone I am "working" with... but managing this > beast is a problem... getting my changes to him is incredibly > difficult because of the size and the number of changes that were > necessary. If I can get my changes into the OO CVS things would be > much easier because then I wouldn't have to deal with merging myself. > > Anyway it is a very complex thing... and I am not sure what the best > solution would be. If anyone has any suggestions for what I can do in > the interrim between getting the OS/2 changes into the CVS... please > let me know. When John Fairhurst and I were working on Warpzilla and dealing with essentially the same problem, we used our own CVS repository to swap patches and stay on the same page. The downside was that it meant having two src trees (one pulled from Mozilla and the other from our CVS server) and keeping them in sync. Nonethless it worked as a stopgap measure. h~ **= Email 15 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 11:38:38 +0200 (CDT) From: "Adrian Gschwend" Subject: Re: VPC/2 and Linux On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:03:04 +0100, John Poltorak wrote: >Does anyone know if I can run Linux as a guest OS under VPC/2 ? Works perfectly well, as well as all Windoze variants, FreeBSD, OS/2 itself (you can debug OS/2 inside OS/2 :-)), BeOS IIRC and more... There will be a trial version soon. I use the beta for month now and I'm very happy with the product. Definitely worth the money if your machine is fast enough and got enough RAM. cu Adrian -- Adrian Gschwend at OS/2 Netlabs ICQ: 22419590 ktk at netlabs.org ------- The OS/2 OpenSource Project: http://www.netlabs.org **= Email 16 ==========================** Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 11:57:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Neis Subject: Re: OpenOffice On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, John Poltorak wrote: > Does anyone know if anyone has attempted to build OpenOffice on OS/2? AFAIK, someone tried running the Windows version via Odin rather successfully. > I know this has been mentioned before but ISTR that we didn't have the > required tools on OS/2. Does the availability of gcc 3.0.3 change > anything? Well, the entire GUI stuff was essentially based on VAC++ for OS/2, so gcc releases don't really matter. But I don't know if the OS/2 specific part of GUI code was ever released to the public... > What do we need to be able to build it? First of all, their GUI toolkit would have made to work on OS/2... Regards, Stefan -- Micro$oft is not an answer. It is a question. The answer is 'no'. **= Email 17 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 12:41:04 +0400 From: "Andrew Zabolotny" Subject: Re: Need some help builing GETTEXT On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:16:25 +0000, John Poltorak wrote: >One problem I have with the compile is this:- As I have said already, the OS/2 port in the 0.11.1 release is *broken*. If you need the updated source code, I can send you a diff but I would suggest you to wait for the next release - the maintainer promised me to include the right changes into the mainstream gettext. P.S. Not that it is completely broken - but it needs a couple of fixes here and there... Greetings, _\ndy **= Email 18 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 12:54:23 +0100 From: Pete Milne Subject: Re: OpenOffice John Poltorak wrote: > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:57:59AM +0200, Stefan Neis wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, John Poltorak wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know if anyone has attempted to build OpenOffice on OS/2? > > > > > > AFAIK, someone tried running the Windows version via Odin rather > > successfully. > > > > > I know this has been mentioned before but ISTR that we didn't have the > > > required tools on OS/2. Does the availability of gcc 3.0.3 change > > > anything? > > > > Well, the entire GUI stuff was essentially based on VAC++ for OS/2, so > > gcc releases don't really matter. But I don't know if the OS/2 specific > > part of GUI code was ever released to the public... > > > > > What do we need to be able to build it? > > > > First of all, their GUI toolkit would have made to work on OS/2... > > According to the Build FAQ:- > > http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/build_faq.html > > For OS/2, HP/UX and other platforms previously supported, the source > is available but has not been built. > > Wonder if anyone has tried.... > > > > Regards, > > Stefan > > -- > John ISTR reading that the source is humongous ( 3Gb?) Pete **= Email 19 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 13:49:46 +0100 From: "Mikkel C. Simonsen" Subject: Re: VPC/2 and Linux Adrian Gschwend wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:03:04 +0100, John Poltorak wrote: > > >Does anyone know if I can run Linux as a guest OS under VPC/2 ? > > Works perfectly well, as well as all Windoze variants, FreeBSD, OS/2 > itself (you can debug OS/2 inside OS/2 :-)), BeOS IIRC and more... As far as I remember BeOS is the only thing that doesn't work. > There will be a trial version soon. That sounds great. Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen > I use the beta for month now and > I'm very happy with the product. Definitely worth the money if your > machine is fast enough and got enough RAM. > > cu > > Adrian > > -- > Adrian Gschwend > at OS/2 Netlabs > > ICQ: 22419590 > ktk at netlabs.org > ------- > The OS/2 OpenSource Project: > http://www.netlabs.org **= Email 20 ==========================** Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:00:10 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: OpenOffice On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:54:23PM +0100, Pete Milne wrote: > > > John Poltorak wrote: > > > > First of all, their GUI toolkit would have made to work on OS/2... > > > > According to the Build FAQ:- > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/build_faq.html > > > > For OS/2, HP/UX and other platforms previously supported, the source > > is available but has not been built. > > > > Wonder if anyone has tried.... > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Stefan > > > > -- > > John > > ISTR reading that the source is humongous ( 3Gb?) Not quite.... [Q] How much hard drive space needed for a full build of OpenOffice.org including source? [A] The current recommendation is 3GB. The source code is ~328MB The build requires 2GB The creation of an installation set requires ~300MB. [dotted_line.gif] [dotted_line.gif] [Q] How long does an OpenOffice.org build take? [A] Our current experience is that a full build of OpenOffice.org is approximately 20 hours on a single CPU Pentium III with 256MB of RAM running Linux. This obviously looks as though it would benefit from distributed processing. I've never done any myself, but guess it would be something similar to using SETI... If this can be set up I'd be happy to do some of the processing here on a couple of machines. > Pete -- John **= Email 21 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:00:26 +0100 From: "Mikkel C. Simonsen" Subject: Re: Hi folks! Dave Saville wrote: > > On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 15:28:52 +0100, Mikkel C. Simonsen wrote: > > >Jack Troughton wrote: > >> > >> > If you (or somebody else) need a PM zone-file editor let me know... > >> > >> Sure... what's a zone file editor? > There is also one that will construct the needed files from your > hosts file - Available from the oriley perl site. I will look up the > URL if anyone needs it - don't have it to have right now. But that will only get you a zone file for your internal network. I assume most people setup BIND to handle "real" domains? If anybody else is interested in the zone-file editor, I've uploaded it here: http://stiftsbogtrykkeriet.dk/~mcs/ZoneEdit/ZoneEdit.zip Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen > -- > Regards > > Dave Saville > Please note new email address dave.saville at ntlworld.com **= Email 22 ==========================** Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:16:44 +0100 From: John Poltorak Subject: Re: OpenOffice On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 08:06:30AM -0500, Brian Smith wrote: > On Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:17:27 +0100, John Poltorak wrote: > > > > >Does anyone know if anyone has attempted to build OpenOffice on OS/2? > > > >I know this has been mentioned before but ISTR that we didn't have the > >required tools on OS/2. Does the availability of gcc 3.0.3 change > >anything? > > I have built a very old version and am working to get the newest version > building. I used pgcc for the old version... and am using 3.0 for the > new version. But some of my time is being consumed by the InJoy beta > test that I am now managing. Is there anything anyone can do to assist? > Brian -- John **= Email 23 ==========================** Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 21:13:30 +0200 (CEST) From: "Peter Jespersen" Subject: Re: OpenOffice On Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:37:23 -0400, Jack Troughton wrote: >John Poltorak wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:57:59AM +0200, Stefan Neis wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, John Poltorak wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Does anyone know if anyone has attempted to build OpenOffice on OS/2? >>> >>> >>>AFAIK, someone tried running the Windows version via Odin rather >>>successfully. >>> >>> >>>>I know this has been mentioned before but ISTR that we didn't have the >>>>required tools on OS/2. Does the availability of gcc 3.0.3 change >>>>anything? >>> >>>Well, the entire GUI stuff was essentially based on VAC++ for OS/2, so >>>gcc releases don't really matter. But I don't know if the OS/2 specific >>>part of GUI code was ever released to the public... >>> >>> >>>>What do we need to be able to build it? >>> >>>First of all, their GUI toolkit would have made to work on OS/2... >> >> According to the Build FAQ:- >> >> http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/build_faq.html >> >> For OS/2, HP/UX and other platforms previously supported, the source >> is available but has not been built. >> >> Wonder if anyone has tried.... > >ISTR reading that a group in Russia had tried... they said that getting >it up and going was going to be a HUGE job. Some of the builds you actually are able to install....I did once (I have installed a W2K later, which means my Application Volume was killed and I cant recall the build number)...the problem was the open file dialog, using that resulted in an exception, using the URL locator instead did the trick. Live long and prosper... _________________________________________________________________ Peter Jespersen, Member of Team OS/2 Denmark flywheel at illogical.dk http://www.illogical.dk Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!